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    Who's morals

    Lets get real. If american soldiers hid behind civilians, would al-queda or the talaban not attack regardless of the after math?I find it difficult to find a moral solution, to immoral behavior by an enemy. These are not uniformed legal combatents, they are civilian soldiers. I'd err in favor of our sons and daughters. We prosecuted those marines whp peed on that corpse, the muslim world did not prosecte that mainiac that beheaded that british journalist. Rabid dogs are in many cases killed first, the judged afterwards,Maybe linking muslim extremists is a dis service to dogs, A drone is not unmanned, someone somewhere controls it, those planes that attacked us were also drones in that sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    Lets get real. If american soldiers hid behind civilians, would al-queda or the talaban not attack regardless of the after math?I find it difficult to find a moral solution, to immoral behavior by an enemy. These are not uniformed legal combatents, they are civilian soldiers. I'd err in favor of our sons and daughters. We prosecuted those marines whp peed on that corpse, the muslim world did not prosecte that mainiac that beheaded that british journalist. Rabid dogs are in many cases killed first, the judged afterwards,Maybe linking muslim extremists is a dis service to dogs, A drone is not unmanned, someone somewhere controls it, those planes that attacked us were also drones in that sense.
    Cong did the same thing in Vietnam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    Lets get real. If american soldiers hid behind civilians, would al-queda or the talaban not attack regardless of the after math?I find it difficult to find a moral solution, to immoral behavior by an enemy. These are not uniformed legal combatents, they are civilian soldiers. I'd err in favor of our sons and daughters. We prosecuted those marines whp peed on that corpse, the muslim world did not prosecte that mainiac that beheaded that british journalist. Rabid dogs are in many cases killed first, the judged afterwards,Maybe linking muslim extremists is a dis service to dogs, A drone is not unmanned, someone somewhere controls it, those planes that attacked us were also drones in that sense.
    You know.........I don't quite get it......this is EXACTLY how I feel about it, and how many others I know feel about it.

    What I don't get is how you can set there, and how others can "like" your comment........YET just a few years ago the very same "mentality" was against everything GWB did trying to fight this "terrorism".

    The two faced hypocrites out there with this regard make me sick. War is WAR, no matter who is the freakin president.

    Same with the two faced hypocrites when Bush was pursuing drone warfare.

    I just wish AMERICANS would get lock step behind whoever and do WHATEVER. Radical Islamic muslims hate us, and will always hate us, and taking the foot off the pedal, and bringing our boys home is not going to stop the hatred.

    We need a 50,000 troop footprint in the middle east now and FOREVER........

    Later,

    Geo

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    part of me

    Going into afganistan and kicking azz was right. Sticking around and tying one arm behind our soldiers was a mistake.Iraq was nothing but an ego trip for GWB. Keeping 50000 troops in the middle east, will eventually lead to a thousand more amputees and ruined lives. 5000 armed drones can reduce and reverse those numbers. Just let them know"allah and the USAF are watching you" Be bad and we'll turn you into a lump of coal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    Going into afganistan and kicking azz was right. Sticking around and tying one arm behind our soldiers was a mistake.Iraq was nothing but an ego trip for GWB. Keeping 50000 troops in the middle east, will eventually lead to a thousand more amputees and ruined lives. 5000 armed drones can reduce and reverse those numbers. Just let them know"allah and the USAF are watching you" Be bad and we'll turn you into a lump of coal.
    If we DON'T keep troops there, we will be there again in a decade. Did we not learn anything from Gulf War 1. I don't give two shits if they don't want us there. Korea and Europe bitched and complained publicly they didn't want us there but PRIVATELY they love the fact that American Boys are protecting their flank.

    We better get our head out of our AZZ and realize that radical islamic fanaticism is not going away. If you pull out and leave, it will grow. Yea, the middle east has been fighting for a thousand years, or more, but I'd much rather them burn and destroy **** in their land than MY LAND. Just saying.

    I don't get how folks don't UNDERSTAND that........Seems pretty simple to me.

    Later,

    Geo

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    If we DON'T keep troops there, we will be there again in a decade. Did we not learn anything from Gulf War 1. I don't give two shits if they don't want us there. Korea and Europe bitched and complained publicly they didn't want us there but PRIVATELY they love the fact that American Boys are protecting their flank.

    We better get our head out of our AZZ and realize that radical islamic fanaticism is not going away. If you pull out and leave, it will grow. Yea, the middle east has been fighting for a thousand years, or more, but I'd much rather them burn and destroy **** in their land than MY LAND. Just saying.

    I don't get how folks don't UNDERSTAND that........Seems pretty simple to me.

    Later,

    Geo
    As long as we're talking about learning from history - here's a short list of failed Afghanistan occupations:

    Persian Empire (6th and 5th century BC)
    Macedonian Empire (4th century BC)
    Huns (5th century AD)
    Muslim Arabs (7th century AD)
    Islamic Turks (10th century AD)
    Mongolian Empire (13th century AD)
    British and Russian Empires (19th and 20th century AD)
    USSR (1980s)
    And we're next on the list.

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    history lesson

    Whats strange is afganistan probably never started any of those wars. Has no navy,no air force, no armoured divisions, no paratroopers, and no one really knows why they got there to get an azz kicking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcb View Post
    As long as we're talking about learning from history - here's a short list of failed Afghanistan occupations:

    Persian Empire (6th and 5th century BC)
    Macedonian Empire (4th century BC)
    Huns (5th century AD)
    Muslim Arabs (7th century AD)
    Islamic Turks (10th century AD)
    Mongolian Empire (13th century AD)
    British and Russian Empires (19th and 20th century AD)
    USSR (1980s)
    And we're next on the list.
    Of course..........

    BUT the world has changed, I don't want to "occupy" their land so to speak...but I DO want to ensure their evil minded hatred for the west doesn't spread TO the west.

    WHAT is your solution?

    Later,

    Geo

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