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    how did we get here?

    I started this because I'm peed off about the 35 cent price rise in gasoline, not on who is or was president. Its just an example of one problem, that cant be solved because of corporate greed over national interests. Some of you are going to say "more drilling" we are drilling more, and refining at almost full capacity.But is it benefitting american citizens? Maybe a few with vested interests in the energy market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    I started this because I'm peed off about the 35 cent price rise in gasoline, not on who is or was president. Its just an example of one problem, that cant be solved because of corporate greed over national interests. Some of you are going to say "more drilling" we are drilling more, and refining at almost full capacity.But is it benefitting american citizens? Maybe a few with vested interests in the energy market.
    I'm peed off as well. I'm always wanting to remind others of how the Libs actually used Bush as the reason gas was high. Folks like Pelosi, Clinton and Schumer (I believe) told people it was Bush causing the high prices to help his rich friends. Remember?? The rich get richer junk??? I guess I get sick of the crappola from the leftist media and junk politicians.

    It's funny, regardless of the truth, that the Libs can say or accuse anyone of anything and when the facts come out its time to get serious and act as if this is now going to take some serious thinking. What happened to the Lib theory of just lowering the prices?? If its that easy lets see it!! You and I know it can't be done like that so to me it's just more lies from rich liberal elite politicians and millions of people believed it and then forgot they were told that.

    Im afraid You will get more upset as prices keep going up on everything else. You may not have voted for our potus but you can dang well thank him for all his fumbling and bogus promises. Like I said in another thread we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg from this mans irresponsible approach to leading. The country needs leadership and not self serving, legacy building, constant campaigning no bball game having, talk show addict fool. So we have something in common....I'm PEED AS WELL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    I started this because I'm peed off about the 35 cent price rise in gasoline, not on who is or was president. Its just an example of one problem, that cant be solved because of corporate greed over national interests. Some of you are going to say "more drilling" we are drilling more, and refining at almost full capacity.But is it benefitting american citizens? Maybe a few with vested interests in the energy market.
    I don't know if it is greed or not........

    I do know any hiccup in the supply......namely refined products will cause HUGE issues for us. Obama refuses to build refineries. REFUSES.

    If we had 5-10 more refineries, where the load is split across multiple areas, AND you didn't have to ship product 500-800 miles when there was a refinery down, maybe that would help stave the demand.

    I really believe and have always believed the refinery side of SUPPLY is extremely suspect to problems.

    Lets break it down.

    * When we switch over to RFG.........problems.
    * When we switch over to heating oil.........problems.
    * When we switch back to winter mix.......problems.
    * When there is a refinery fire or issue.........problems.
    * When refineries shut down due to weather.......problems.

    Maybe if we had redundant refinery capacity.............We could at least control the costs a little.

    Later,

    Geo

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    An apology

    DJ you're right!! Its nobahma, both bushes, clinton, all of them. Presidents Day. what better homage could the oil companys make, than to raise the prices in thier honor. Theres nothing I'd like more than the federal gov. build and run a few refinerys.NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Refining crude is the end result of oil production.Businesses would scream un fair. The lobbyists and lawyers would have the action taken to courts and it would drag on for a century.And if the gov. won, they'd screw it up just like they do everything.Local people in many places dont want refinerys, the polution, the infa structure would turn out to be a burden to the tax payers. In lake county IN. at one time therew were 6 refinerys, now one. The public had nothing to do with shutting them down.

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