Those gentle loving muslims are at it again. China is having some problems with allahs minions. Some folks in this country are all against us pulling out of the middle east because china is stepping in. Let em have it! Good riddance to bad rubish.
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Those gentle loving muslims are at it again. China is having some problems with allahs minions. Some folks in this country are all against us pulling out of the middle east because china is stepping in. Let em have it! Good riddance to bad rubish.
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Maybe they will deal with them without all the baggage the our elected leaders attach to them. Just kill them, toss them in a landfill and let them push daisies.
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Now we[the most hated nation in the world]according to islam,are worried that the chinese are abusing muslems.GOOD! We were "concerned " over chechnia,look what it got us. Leave china and burma alone. thier culture predates all western culture, figure that gives them an idea of how to deal with domestic issues.Maybe we ought to sell them a few hundred drones[if they aren't made in china already].Worry about the united states,.
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Lrts start cloing some of these mosques! Any more of them and they will start cluttering up the air waves, and TV channels[its bad enough already}
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So you want to shread the First and Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution? So what your saying you had rather the Government tell you what you can worship? This make no sense or you are just peed off at Muslims.Originally Posted by kygorski
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My god said "love another". It feels to me that muslims have no concept of that idea. No I have no intention of ever reading the koran, the bible is a retold story of judaism. The new testament is where my beliefs are centered.IMHO the constitution grants us freedom of and from religion. We christians can also do things that Christ would never condone.
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Yep no one is perfect. Doesn't matter what you call yourself....we all do things that God does not condone. Most terrorists have a common thread and that is their religion of choice. If I heard of one bombing, killing, beheading or attack with Muslim ties I wouldn't jump to conclusions but that's not the case with Muslims. In this day in age if we see, hear or are caught up in one of these activities chances are it will be by someone with a Muslim background.
Update...the Mosque that was bid in Lexington went over budget....not uncommon for new construction but EXPECTED in this case.
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Explain?
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How far back can actual recored fact be traced? We know the world is far older than what some bible readers subscribe to. Was the world destroyed by flood as in the story of noah? Are there any actual traces of soddem and gemorah? How could a large population be lost in the desert for 40 years? What constitutes a biblical year? I'm not familiar with the torah, how much of ther the bible the torah, and the koran have in common? The theory of adam and eve starting civilization has been debunked. We recite the apostles creed, and that is the basis of my beliefs.
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I'm not a theologian, or phd biblical scholar, but I've done some reading on the subject, and I think I can help with a couple of those questions. Not all of them.
"How far back can actual recored fact be traced?"
That's such a sweeping question that I'm not going to pretend to be able to answer it.
"We know the world is far older than what some bible readers subscribe to. Was the world destroyed by flood as in the story of noah?"
There's an interesting idea that's been advanced to explain the flood of the Bible, and that's the Black Sea Deluge Hypothesis.
Black Sea deluge hypothesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If that really did happen, then to people who lived along the Black Sea at the time, yes, the world was destroyed by a flood.
"Are there any actual traces of soddem and gemorah?"
Some biblical archeologists believe they have located both cities. https://www.google.com/webhp?source=...w=1366&bih=643
"I'm not familiar with the torah, how much of ther the bible the torah, and the koran have in common?"
The Torah roughly corresponds to the first five books of the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.
While I was looking this up, I came across a really interesting site, designed by Muslims, apparently as an outreach to others. Part of it compares the Bible, Torah, and Koran:
Qur'an Bible Torah Comparison | Change the Story
One thing I want to quote from that web page is this, "In Islam, God (Arabic: Allah) is the same as the God of the Jews and Christians." That is very important to note. It is a widely believed fallacy that "Allah" refers to some other deity besides the God of the Christians and the Jews. The three religions are intertwined when it comes to the stories told in their texts. The Koran tells the story of Adam and Eve slightly different, and actually talks more about what happens in Eden than Genesis does. It is an article of faith for Muslims that Jesus Christ was the product of a virgin birth. They revere Jesus as a prophet, who they believe foretold the coming of Mohammed. The Koran also says that Jesus could heal lepers, and rise the dead.
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With all due respect, the fallacy is the one quoted in the first sentence. The Christian God includes God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit. You cannot separate the Son and the Spirit from God the Father and still say you are talking about the same God.
All of the things Islam holds in common with Christianity about Jesus are great, but really amount to nothing without agreement on the essential nature of Jesus - his status as part of the Trinity and as the son of God.
God is Jesus. Jesus is God. And that is the essential definition of God in Christianity.
I am all in favor of looking for common ground and getting along with other faiths, but let's not kid ourselves about us worshiping the same God.
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You could say the exact same thing about Judaism. They don't worship Jesus, either. So, by your logic, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all worship three separate Gods. With all due respect, JCB, that is absurd.
Here's the entire paragraph, so that you can see that statement in context:
"Judaism, Christianity and Islam have in common the notion that one God governs the world and all of creation, and is omnipotent, omniscient, and everlasting. In all three religions, God is transcendent, beyond space and time, and yet acts in history and through time. The theologies of Judaism and Islam are closer to each other than either is to Christianity; both hold God to be unified and indivisible. Most, but not all, Christians today uphold that God is a unified entity with three aspects: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus) who is both divine and human, and the Holy Spirit. In Islam, God (Arabic: Allah) is the same as the God of the Jews and Christians. Just as Christians adopted Jewish narratives and teachings for their own use, Muslims have adopted narratives and teachings from both of the monotheisms that came before it."
Muslims worship the God that appeared to Mary, and told her she was going to give birth to Jesus. This story is told in the Koran, in very much the same way it's told in the Bible. To say that theirs is a different God is nothing more than a made-up excuse for Muslim bashing.
Of course, I can understand why you would be reluctant to believe me on this, as I have stated openly that I am agnostic. But I would think you'd believe the Pope:
http://www.catholic.com/blog/todd-ag...nd-the-one-god
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