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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSplitshot View Post
    Killing a baby "legally" while inside its mother at 13 weeks gestation....or killing a baby right after it has been born....

    Maybe the former seems easier to deal with because you can't see the baby, but either way, you're killing a baby.

    I'm sorry, but the "line" has been blurry from the get-go, thus the great debate on when life begins and abortion. Liberals/Democrats in general condone abortion...ending the lives of babies for the sake of freedom and woman's right to choose.

    Back before my wife got pregnant and before we had a child, I actually took a more moderate stance on abortion. I didn't really think that the government ought to make decisions about a woman's body...I thought it was really a woman's right to choose and none of my business. I've changed my stance. It has nothing to do with the woman's body or the woman's right to chose. This is a human life and somebody, albeit it our ridiculous government, has to protect it. There is right and there is wrong. Killing babies is wrong, whether they are a little peanut inside a womb or whether they are 9 months old and crawling across your living room floor. It's a living, breathing, heart-beating, life. The only scenarios that make the abortion debate even a question for me now are rape, incest, or a situation where the mother's life is at stake. Those are hard to deal with, no doubt. But at some point, God's will is just God's will. Killing innocent babies just doesn't ever seem to be on the "right" side of the argument for me anymore. Life is hard. People make mistakes and get pregnant when they weren't planning it, or can't afford it, or were drunk and don't even know the Daddy's name...but that still doesn't seem like justification for killing a baby.

    I don't think there's any argument that the liberal/Democratic platform is pro-choice.
    There also isn't any argument that the conservative/Republican platform is against making exceptions for rape or incest, or where there is significant risk to the life/health of the mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToad View Post
    There also isn't any argument that the conservative/Republican platform is against making exceptions for rape or incest, or where there is significant risk to the life/health of the mother.
    Correct.

    Not sure my stance personally on it, but the Conservative Republican camp hasn't really been one to make exceptions for rape, incest, or risk of life to the Mother.

    I'm not sure how I feel about those three issues in regards to abortion, myself. Tough ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToad View Post
    There also isn't any argument that the conservative/Republican platform is against making exceptions for rape or incest, or where there is significant risk to the life/health of the mother.
    I TAKE issue with that and the party platform.

    Abortion should be available, but CERTAINLY should not be used as birth control.

    Rape, Incest, Health of the mother, and "other cases" should all be allowed. I deliberately marked "other cases", because there are always extenuating circumstances that you and I will NEVER KNOW.

    BUT.....and a BIG BUT,

    * they should be disallowed after a certain period.
    * this late term stuff should be outlawed, period, and EVERY practitioner should be brought up on murder charges
    * ALL federal financing should be removed from it.
    * Planned Parenthood and their abortion mills should be shut down.

    Later,

    Geo

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