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    Doing doughnuts in gravel lot at Bluegrass

    Another fine morning at Bluegrass FWA fishing the back of Ringneck pit when someone roars into the gravel parking lot throwing up a cloud of dust . Ok someones launching their boat . Nope nobody . Get a little concern so motor towards ramp to check the truck . Hear 2 guys talking so I keep fishing . Guess they decided not fish so they did a couple of doughnuts in the lot , throwing dust/gravel on my truck , then peel out on the road yelling "you hit his truck !" as they thunder off south . Went up to check truck , its OK just dusty . This is the kind of crap that ruins it for everyone . Well I was so pO'ed I loaded the boat and left . Followed the way they went checking lots and found them fishing Otter pit , a black/gray 2 tone 1990s Chevy Silverado parked as far south as you can launch . Thought abot doing my own doughnuts on their truck but heck with it . They had a small plastic 2 man pontoon boat and were very loud acting drunk . Drove around looking for the CO but didnt see him . I fish by myself alot and think Im going to get a carry permit and arm myself .

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    Donuts in the parking lot Bad News

    Quote Originally Posted by bassmanic1 View Post
    Another fine morning at Bluegrass FWA fishing the back of Ringneck pit when someone roars into the gravel parking lot throwing up a cloud of dust . Ok someones launching their boat . Nope nobody . Get a little concern so motor towards ramp to check the truck . Hear 2 guys talking so I keep fishing . Guess they decided not fish so they did a couple of doughnuts in the lot , throwing dust/gravel on my truck , then peel out on the road yelling "you hit his truck !" as they thunder off south . Went up to check truck , its OK just dusty . This is the kind of crap that ruins it for everyone . Well I was so pO'ed I loaded the boat and left . Followed the way they went checking lots and found them fishing Otter pit , a black/gray 2 tone 1990s Chevy Silverado parked as far south as you can launch . Thought abot doing my own doughnuts on their truck but heck with it . They had a small plastic 2 man pontoon boat and were very loud acting drunk . Drove around looking for the CO but didnt see him . I fish by myself alot and think Im going to get a carry permit and arm myself .
    I hate when people do that! It makes the parking lot surface so rough and it lasts forever. Now if they were doing that while I was in my truck I'd have to shoot at something. You can do damage not only to someone's vehicle but put an eye out. I had the same thing happen to me once at the North Loon Launch Ramp. I had launched at the South end of loon and motored up to the North End and was fishing the little lagoon off to the West of the North Ends' Launch Ramp and parking lot.

    A guy in a truck came into the parking lot and turned around but when his truck rear end was pointing in my boat's direction he hit the gas and threw a lot of gravel into the water. I was far enough back out in the water that the gravel missed me but the idea that he tried to spray me with gravel was what pissed me off. I could not get to my gun fast enough before he was gone.

    We need security lights and cameras every where to stop this type of behavior as the probability of someone getting this on video or a CO actually seeing this happen is remote as best.

    BTW: You can always call the Warrick County Dispatcher at (812) 897-1200. The dispatcher can contact the IDNR State Conservation Officers by radio. They work out of the Warrick County Jail Complex up in Boonville, IN. That's where they store their vehicles these days. But it may take a while for a CO to come out to do the investigation.

    By the time they get to your location at Bluegrass Fish and Wildlife area it may be a few hours or so. We need more CO's for all the territory that they have to try to control.

    Kids don't think or care much about other people's property when they are out trying to have fun and drinking while driving.

    I've met a guy who was at Otter Pit in the same area you are describing and he was carrying a pistol on his belt openly. We talked for a while but I never asked him about his gun. He was a pretty little guy and I could see where he might feel the need to carry openly in an area like Bluegrass where he was alone and not a very big guy. He reminded me of some of the Horse Jockeys by his stature. Very petite.

    Did you catch any fish?

    I need to get my riding mower out of my truck and take it to the repair shop Monday. I can't take the boat out with the rider in the bed of the truck. It broke on me Saturday morning while I was cutting grass. I could not fix it myself as I needed a air operated impact gun to remove a bolt that holds the pulley on. I needed a longer breaker bar and two men to remove the pulley. So it's going to the shop where they have the proper tools to do the job.

    I went to Lowes and Home Depot last night to look and price an air impact gun and a bigger air compressor. All the big air impact guns require around 5 CFM at 90 PSI and my air compressor only delivers 2 CFM at 90 PSI. So it was either get a smaller impact gun or a larger compressor. The smallest compressor that delivered about 5 CFM was a small Dewalt Compressor that cost about$300. And the impact wrench that was 1/2" drive cost a little over $100. I could not see spending $400 when I could get the lawnmower fixed for less than $100. Though if I had bought the tools and did the job myself I would have only spent a net of $300 extra to get the job done and then I would have a better air compressor and a good air impact tool to do the next job or jobs. In the long run I would save more money. But you have to have money to save money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    I hate when people do that! It makes the parking lot surface so rough and it lasts forever. Now if they were doing that while I was in my truck I'd have to shoot at something. You can do damage not only to someone's vehicle but put an eye out. I had the same thing happen to me once at the North Loon Launch Ramp. I had launched at the South end of loon and motored up to the North End and was fishing the little lagoon off to the West of the North Ends' Launch Ramp and parking lot.

    A guy in a truck came into the parking lot and turned around but when his truck rear end was pointing in my boat's direction he hit the gas and threw a lot of gravel into the water. I was far enough back out in the water that the gravel missed me but the idea that he tried to spray me with gravel was what pissed me off. I could not get to my gun fast enough before he was gone.

    We need security lights and cameras every where to stop this type of behavior as the probability of someone getting this on video or a CO actually seeing this happen is remote as best.

    BTW: You can always call the Warrick County Dispatcher at (812) 897-1200. The dispatcher can contact the IDNR State Conservation Officers by radio. They work out of the Warrick County Jail Complex up in Boonville, IN. That's where they store their vehicles these days. But it may take a while for a CO to come out to do the investigation.

    By the time they get to your location at Bluegrass Fish and Wildlife area it may be a few hours or so. We need more CO's for all the territory that they have to try to control.

    Kids don't think or care much about other people's property when they are out trying to have fun and drinking while driving.

    I've met a guy who was at Otter Pit in the same area you are describing and he was carrying a pistol on his belt openly. We talked for a while but I never asked him about his gun. He was a pretty little guy and I could see where he might feel the need to carry openly in an area like Bluegrass where he was alone and not a very big guy. He reminded me of some of the Horse Jockeys by his stature. Very petite.

    Did you catch any fish?

    I need to get my riding mower out of my truck and take it to the repair shop Monday. I can't take the boat out with the rider in the bed of the truck. It broke on me Saturday morning while I was cutting grass. I could not fix it myself as I needed a air operated impact gun to remove a bolt that holds the pulley on. I needed a longer breaker bar and two men to remove the pulley. So it's going to the shop where they have the proper tools to do the job.

    I went to Lowes and Home Depot last night to look and price an air impact gun and a bigger air compressor. All the big air impact guns require around 5 CFM at 90 PSI and my air compressor only delivers 2 CFM at 90 PSI. So it was either get a smaller impact gun or a larger compressor. The smallest compressor that delivered about 5 CFM was a small Dewalt Compressor that cost about$300. And the impact wrench that was 1/2" drive cost a little over $100. I could not see spending $400 when I could get the lawnmower fixed for less than $100. Though if I had bought the tools and did the job myself I would have only spent a net of $300 extra to get the job done and then I would have a better air compressor and a good air impact tool to do the next job or jobs. In the long run I would save more money. But you have to have money to save money.
    Breaker bar costs a lot less

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM4A1 View Post
    Breaker bar costs a lot less
    haha. You are so right. Funny you mentioned that and I forget to put that in my post. As last night I ended up going to lowes and bought a 4 ft long aluminum conduit pipe for just such purposes. And then I spend another few bucks on a longer 1/2" drive ratcheting socket wrench. The stupid thing cost me 69 bucks but I'll not be in this predicament the next time I need more power to take off a nut or something. But $69 is a lot of money for a socket wrench don't you think? Oh well I charged it on my VISA card and still have the receipt. I can use it and then take it back to the store and get my money back. Or I'll just take it to the repair shop and get it done there. They said it would only cost 39 bucks to do the job with the added cost of parts. Every one else in Newburgh and Evansville and Haubstat wants 75 dollars and hour to work in the Snapper Rider and they can't tell me how long it will take to do the job. Perhaps an hour .... perhaps it may take longer. They can't guarantee me a time frame over the phone. But the other shop said it would only cost 36 or 39 dollars to do the job. That's a lot cheaper than 75 bucks. And hopefully the part cost are the same no matter where I go to have it fixed. I'll find out tomorrow.

    I'll keep the long aluminum breaker bar so that I can slide it over my other socket wrench handles to increase the leverage.

    I still can't get the nut off the blade on the rider mower. I have a 3/4" socket to take the nut and bolt apart to remove the blade. There are two of these 3/4" heads by 1" long bolts that I have to unscrew before I can take the blade off. I have to take the blade off so that I can attaches something to the arbor to hold it still while I use the breaker bar or the air impact wrench at the top to get the pulley nut off. It's a two man job and I don't have any one to help me to this in a timely manner. So off to the shop it goes tomorrow. Why is everything so hard to do and so complicated? So they can make more money off me and you? I guess. I want easy to fix stuff not hard to fix stuff.

    Saturday was not my day. I got half way across town and then found out that I forget my wallet. I had to turn around and drive back home to get the wallet. By that time it was too late to do anything but have some drinks and relax.

    I can always use the breaker bar on the tire lug nuts as they use an air impact wrench to put them puppies on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    haha. You are so right. Funny you mentioned that and I forget to put that in my post. As last night I ended up going to lowes and bought a 4 ft long aluminum conduit pipe for just such purposes. And then I spend another few bucks on a longer 1/2" drive ratcheting socket wrench. The stupid thing cost me 69 bucks but I'll not be in this predicament the next time I need more power to take off a nut or something. But $69 is a lot of money for a socket wrench don't you think? Oh well I charged it on my VISA card and still have the receipt. I can use it and then take it back to the store and get my money back. Or I'll just take it to the repair shop and get it done there. They said it would only cost 39 bucks to do the job with the added cost of parts. Every one else in Newburgh and Evansville and Haubstat wants 75 dollars and hour to work in the Snapper Rider and they can't tell me how long it will take to do the job. Perhaps an hour .... perhaps it may take longer. They can't guarantee me a time frame over the phone. But the other shop said it would only cost 36 or 39 dollars to do the job. That's a lot cheaper than 75 bucks. And hopefully the part cost are the same no matter where I go to have it fixed. I'll find out tomorrow.

    I'll keep the long aluminum breaker bar so that I can slide it over my other socket wrench handles to increase the leverage.

    I still can't get the nut off the blade on the rider mower. I have a 3/4" socket to take the nut and bolt apart to remove the blade. There are two of these 3/4" heads by 1" long bolts that I have to unscrew before I can take the blade off. I have to take the blade off so that I can attaches something to the arbor to hold it still while I use the breaker bar or the air impact wrench at the top to get the pulley nut off. It's a two man job and I don't have any one to help me to this in a timely manner. So off to the shop it goes tomorrow. Why is everything so hard to do and so complicated? So they can make more money off me and you? I guess. I want easy to fix stuff not hard to fix stuff.

    Saturday was not my day. I got half way across town and then found out that I forget my wallet. I had to turn around and drive back home to get the wallet. By that time it was too late to do anything but have some drinks and relax.

    I can always use the breaker bar on the tire lug nuts as they use an air impact wrench to put them puppies on.
    Seems like an awful lot of money just for a simple socket wrench. I bought my 36" breaker bars (1/2" and 3/4") on ebay for like 20 bucks total But engineers apparently don't want to make anything anymore that doesn't have to be taken to a shop to be worked on. The DIYer is about to become extinct because of engineers that make it too hard for us (or practically impossible)

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    Expensive is right`

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM4A1 View Post
    Seems like an awful lot of money just for a simple socket wrench. I bought my 36" breaker bars (1/2" and 3/4") on ebay for like 20 bucks total But engineers apparently don't want to make anything anymore that doesn't have to be taken to a shop to be worked on. The DIYer is about to become extinct because of engineers that make it too hard for us (or practically impossible)
    Yea your got that right. It's 24" and the head swivels In one two different directions. The left/right with the ratchet and then up and down on another pivot point. Perhaps that's why it's so expensive. it might be made out of Platinum or something or I just got ripped of big time.

    I too the mower in to the shop to day for this job. I'll take the $69 wrench back to Lowes and get that taken off my credit card. its' too long to fit in my tool box anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    haha. You are so right. Funny you mentioned that and I forget to put that in my post. As last night I ended up going to lowes and bought a 4 ft long aluminum conduit pipe for just such purposes. And then I spend another few bucks on a longer 1/2" drive ratcheting socket wrench. The stupid thing cost me 69 bucks but I'll not be in this predicament the next time I need more power to take off a nut or something. But $69 is a lot of money for a socket wrench don't you think? Oh well I charged it on my VISA card and still have the receipt. I can use it and then take it back to the store and get my money back. Or I'll just take it to the repair shop and get it done there. They said it would only cost 39 bucks to do the job with the added cost of parts. Every one else in Newburgh and Evansville and Haubstat wants 75 dollars and hour to work in the Snapper Rider and they can't tell me how long it will take to do the job. Perhaps an hour .... perhaps it may take longer. They can't guarantee me a time frame over the phone. But the other shop said it would only cost 36 or 39 dollars to do the job. That's a lot cheaper than 75 bucks. And hopefully the part cost are the same no matter where I go to have it fixed. I'll find out tomorrow.

    I'll keep the long aluminum breaker bar so that I can slide it over my other socket wrench handles to increase the leverage.

    I still can't get the nut off the blade on the rider mower. I have a 3/4" socket to take the nut and bolt apart to remove the blade. There are two of these 3/4" heads by 1" long bolts that I have to unscrew before I can take the blade off. I have to take the blade off so that I can attaches something to the arbor to hold it still while I use the breaker bar or the air impact wrench at the top to get the pulley nut off. It's a two man job and I don't have any one to help me to this in a timely manner. So off to the shop it goes tomorrow. Why is everything so hard to do and so complicated? So they can make more money off me and you? I guess. I want easy to fix stuff not hard to fix stuff.

    Saturday was not my day. I got half way across town and then found out that I forget my wallet. I had to turn around and drive back home to get the wallet. By that time it was too late to do anything but have some drinks and relax.

    I can always use the breaker bar on the tire lug nuts as they use an air impact wrench to put them puppies on.
    I'm sorry man, but if you USE that 69 dollar tool, you OWN it..........

    Nothing PISSES me off more than when someone buys , uses, and then RETURNS a tool.....I call ********.

    Now, there is nothing wrong, if you buy, use, and it is the wrong tool, but in your case, you KNOW you're taking it back, and in my mind that is just as good as theft.

    Later,

    Geo

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I'm sorry man, but if you USE that 69 dollar tool, you OWN it..........

    Nothing PISSES me off more than when someone buys , uses, and then RETURNS a tool.....I call ********.

    Now, there is nothing wrong, if you buy, use, and it is the wrong tool, but in your case, you KNOW you're taking it back, and in my mind that is just as good as theft.

    Later,

    Geo
    Let's see here..ah yes the definition of theft:

    1. criminal law the dishonest taking of property belonging to another person with the intention of depriving the owner permanently of its possession

    See that word permanently? I would hardly call taking a tool back after it is used theft, more like borrowing. Besides, if I buy a tool, thinking it is too expensive for what I am using it for, or it is a combination of being too expensive and not exactly the right tool for what I want, and then use it and take it back, there is nothing wrong with that. That is what a return/exchange policy is in place for. But to each his own I guess....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM4A1 View Post
    Let's see here..ah yes the definition of theft:

    1. criminal law the dishonest taking of property belonging to another person with the intention of depriving the owner permanently of its possession

    See that word permanently? I would hardly call taking a tool back after it is used theft, more like borrowing. Besides, if I buy a tool, thinking it is too expensive for what I am using it for, or it is a combination of being too expensive and not exactly the right tool for what I want, and then use it and take it back, there is nothing wrong with that. That is what a return/exchange policy is in place for. But to each his own I guess....
    If you buy something, use it and take it back..........that is dishonest..if you don't see that, then I feel sorry for you.

    PERIOD.

    If you buy something, use it and it is not the right fit, or not the right tool, and you take it back, that is fine. I've done it many times, and recently did it with my home repairs.

    The key here is the premeditated process of buying, using, TAKING BACK. I've never done that and NEVER WILL..

    Later,

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    If you buy something, use it and take it back..........that is dishonest..if you don't see that, then I feel sorry for you.

    PERIOD.

    If you buy something, use it and it is not the right fit, or not the right tool, and you take it back, that is fine. I've done it many times, and recently did it with my home repairs.

    The key here is the premeditated process of buying, using, TAKING BACK. I've never done that and NEVER WILL..

    Later,

    Geo
    Good for you. I haven't either. I was just disagreeing with what you had stated previously about it being theft. So no need to feel sorry for me. (that thing right there is a period, no need to be redundant)

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    Cool Calm down George!

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I'm sorry man, but if you USE that 69 dollar tool, you OWN it..........

    Nothing PISSES me off more than when someone buys , uses, and then RETURNS a tool.....I call ********.

    Now, there is nothing wrong, if you buy, use, and it is the wrong tool, but in your case, you KNOW you're taking it back, and in my mind that is just as good as theft.

    Later,

    Geo

    I never used the tool and I am keeping it anyway. Geeze you get too excited too fast! I still may take it back as it's too big and I fear that it being a ratchet type device it would break if I put too much pressure on it. And that's why they made it with a 24" long handle. But I doubt that the ratchet mechanism is going to hold up in the long time.

    I said that I took the rider into the shop Monday and only worked on it Saturday before that. So there is no work being done on the lawm mower since Saturday morning and I didn't buy the tool until Saturday night. It's still brand new and never used. I did take the stupid plastic thing off the tool so I could see how it worked and put a new socket on it to make sure it would do the job if I needed it. I like to know what I'm buying before I get it home but at Lowes the put plastic type locks of or something on the sockets and the socket wrenches.

    I did have a breaker bar in my shopping cart Saturday night but I put it back after playing around with it and seeing if I could fit it's handle inside the 1/2" aluminum conduit that I bought and will use as a force multiplier on my own breaker bar that I already had at home.

    Do you get mad at people that use a tape measure at the store to measure something in the store and then put the tape measure back on the display? If so then I'm guilty of doing that.

    But I'm not guilty of taking a tool home, using it and then taking it back after I get the job done. Sorry if I mislead you. I did think about it though. But it was just an idea and never carried out.

    What I think is a crime is charging $69 for a simple socket wrench just because it's got a longer handle. Perhaps the ratcheting mechanism is made out of titanium or something? But I doubt that. It's just over priced. But hey, it's only money and I can't take it with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    What I think is a crime is charging $69 for a simple socket wrench just because it's got a longer handle. Perhaps the ratcheting mechanism is made out of titanium or something? But I doubt that. It's just over priced.
    Amen. Thankfully I buy most of my stuff on ebay, unless the local hardware store has a good deal.

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