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    When you have 15+ years of intimate experience with a creek that drains less than 100 square miles you get a feel for what's going on. I know you have experience with some of these small gems in KY we've both been online for about the same amount of years. I'm going to go with that over some basic facts about the river otter from various state DNRs. I don't care about big rivers or big lakes because I don't fish them. On small bodies of water, especially after dry spells they are detrimental and don't belong. That is my official stance and I will not waver.

    Large bodies of water - no official stance.

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    We at least have to give apb credit for giving us a reason to watch our computers during the crappy weather.

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    Agree. I would like to see data post introduction at least in Indiana. I believe the release in the patoka lake area was 10+ years ago that's a sufficient amount of time for them to take hold.

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    Indiana distribution

    Note how the red is spreading.....
    http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files...bution_map.pdf

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    try this fact

    fish populations are declining! I'm almost positive that are three times the bass boats as there were 10 years ago. Tax reveues are declining, and some stocking programs have been cut or lowered. I have never seen an otter anywhere!I have seen about 10 times the commorants I used to see.

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    Old thread but still interesting to read and post

    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    fish populations are declining! I'm almost positive that are three times the bass boats as there were 10 years ago. Tax reveues are declining, and some stocking programs have been cut or lowered. I have never seen an otter anywhere!I have seen about 10 times the commorants I used to see.
    I see a lot of cormorants out there too. I've not seen any otters down here at Bluegrass where I fish mostly. We do have some mink and beavers though. but I'm not sure how many fish the mink eat. Beavers don't eat fish that I know about. I see where the beavers have cut down some of the trees along the shoreline though.

    I'd love to see some otters. They could catch and eat some of the small crappie and help the rest of the crappie have enough to eat so that they grow up to be big fast slabs. I'd be ok with that.

    I'd love to get some photographs of some of them otters.

    Some people have captive otters that they use to fish with. They put a collar or harness on the otters and have them tied to a tether line so that they can't get away. They let them out of the boat and the otters do their thing and go catch the fish. Then the man just pulls the otters back into the boat and steals the fish that they caught. Stupid otters work for cheap fish. He He.

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    Fish populations declining

    Several posters have stated that fish populations are declining. I would be curious to see the studies showing this. I know small bodies of water are not routinely sampled, but if there was a significant and measurable decline of smallmouth in a stream such as the Elkhorn, I'd bet the KDFWR would know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denver1911 View Post
    Several posters have stated that fish populations are declining. I would be curious to see the studies showing this. I know small bodies of water are not routinely sampled, but if there was a significant and measurable decline of smallmouth in a stream such as the Elkhorn, I'd bet the KDFWR would know.
    Talk to any farmer with a pond close to an otter.

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