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    I couldn't care less what color these two guys skin are, if the were both pink. it would still be Zimmerman's fault the young man is Dead. I can't see how anyone that heard the 911 call, could think otherwise. Zimmerman was a want A be cop, and started following the boy for no reason other than he was walking through the neighborhood. the 911 operator even told him not to follow the boy, yet he kept following him. and the end result was a young boy's life was taken away from him, because Zimmerman couldn't help but push it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    I couldn't care less what color these two guys skin are, if the were both pink. it would still be Zimmerman's fault the young man is Dead. I can't see how anyone that heard the 911 call, could think otherwise. Zimmerman was a want A be cop, and started following the boy for no reason other than he was walking through the neighborhood. the 911 operator even told him not to follow the boy, yet he kept following him. and the end result was a young boy's life was taken away from him, because Zimmerman couldn't help but push it.
    Get your facts straight.......it was a DISPATCH call, not 911. He didn't call 911.

    I don't know if it makes a difference or not, but maybe.

    Also, I don't CARE if he followed martin in HIS neighborhood, because the black kid looked suspicious in his neighborhood. I've done it regularly, and I will continue to do it......don't like it......don't act suspicious........

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Get your facts straight.......it was a DISPATCH call, not 911. He didn't call 911.

    I don't know if it makes a difference or not, but maybe.

    Also, I don't CARE if he followed martin in HIS neighborhood, because the black kid looked suspicious in his neighborhood. I've done it regularly, and I will continue to do it......don't like it......don't act suspicious........

    Later,

    Geo
    I think I have them strait, a Dispatcher, an operator, is the person taking the call. it don't matter who answered the call. they gave Zimmerman some good advice, if he would have listen, he wouldn't be on trial and the young Kid would still be alive. it's sad that Zimmerman couldn't mind his own business, and let the real police take care of people that look suspicious. I know if my kid was walking in any neighborhood in America, the land of the free. I wouldn't want someone following them with a gun, playing cop. I think he should get life for what he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    I couldn't care less what color these two guys skin are, if the were both pink. it would still be Zimmerman's fault the young man is Dead. I can't see how anyone that heard the 911 call, could think otherwise. Zimmerman was a want A be cop, and started following the boy for no reason other than he was walking through the neighborhood. the 911 operator even told him not to follow the boy, yet he kept following him. and the end result was a young boy's life was taken away from him, because Zimmerman couldn't help but push it.
    Your right it shouldn't matter about the color of their skin but it is one of the first things that popped up as a reason why this happened.
    Personally I don't think it was as cut and dry as your stated but its your opinion based on what we are told. I haven't watched any of it or listened to it. I just read the news about it so maybe I'm missing some of it. I do think that when Obama said that stupid remark about Martin would look like his son if he had one.....that things turned for the worse. It polarized the event more than it would have been otherwise. He should have stayed out of it like he should have stayed out of the cop arresting his acquaintance (or whatever he was) and having a "beer summit" to wipe away the damage he did. I say it all the time about this guy for as smart as he seems to be he sure stirs the racial pot!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    I couldn't care less what color these two guys skin are, if the were both pink. it would still be Zimmerman's fault the young man is Dead. I can't see how anyone that heard the 911 call, could think otherwise. Zimmerman was a want A be cop, and started following the boy for no reason other than he was walking through the neighborhood. the 911 operator even told him not to follow the boy, yet he kept following him. and the end result was a young boy's life was taken away from him, because Zimmerman couldn't help but push it.
    Nope. If he followed him may not be a wise move but none the less it is not illegal. If Martin does not attach him he would be alive. That is what the defense is saying. Any way you look at it it is sad.

    I think the prosecution has done a poor job. I think they were forced into a trial for political reasons and they knew it. But, the people who force them don't put on the suite and argue the case. That way if they loose it, was the prosecutor's fault because he was week or did not do X. I have seen it a ton of times. My opinion is the media wants him to walk so there will be riots and that makes a great story.

    On the flip side if he walks I would sue the news media for all of the video editing that was done. When they cleaned up the pictures of his injuries and doctored the tape recordings that is BS.

    If there is a crime by all means hammer him but don't sway it to make a story/trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    I couldn't care less what color these two guys skin are, if the were both pink. it would still be Zimmerman's fault the young man is Dead. I can't see how anyone that heard the 911 call, could think otherwise. Zimmerman was a want A be cop, and started following the boy for no reason other than he was walking through the neighborhood. the 911 operator even told him not to follow the boy, yet he kept following him. and the end result was a young boy's life was taken away from him, because Zimmerman couldn't help but push it.
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    What is the purpose of a neighborhood watch if not to keep an eye on the neighborhood and anybody or anything that might be a threat to the folks who live there, if that is not the purpose then why have a watch.... I don't believe Mr. Zimmerman was acting outside of his responsibilities by keeping an eye on this individual.... Had Mr. Martin went on his way there wouldn't be a trial going on because it is likely he would have gotten to his destination unharmed.

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    Wasn't he carrying tools and walking around in a gated community at like 3am??
    Hmmm a suspicious acting hood rat with tools in a neighborhood at 3am sounds like effin trouble to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Wasn't he carrying tools and walking around in a gated community at like 3am??
    Hmmm a suspicious acting hood rat with tools in a neighborhood at 3am sounds like effin trouble to me.
    I believe the shooting occurred around 7:20 pm not 3:00am, and I also believe other than food type of items nothing was found on his body, there definitely wasn't any tools found on his body. I do think a few days later there was a piece of metal found in some bushes approximately five feet away from where they were, that could be used as a tool. There is no proof it belonged to Martin.


    That said, IMO there is no way the state has proven their case against Zimmerman beyond a reasonable doubt, and IMO it would be an injustice if her were to be found guilty. All evidence supports that at some point Martin attacked Zimmerman, and was on top of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLP View Post
    I believe the shooting occurred around 7:20 pm not 3:00am, and I also believe other than food type of items nothing was found on his body, there definitely wasn't any tools found on his body. I do think a few days later there was a piece of metal found in some bushes approximately five feet away from where they were, that could be used as a tool. There is no proof it belonged to Martin.


    That said, IMO there is no way the state has proven their case against Zimmerman beyond a reasonable doubt, and IMO it would be an injustice if her were to be found guilty. All evidence supports that at some point Martin attacked Zimmerman, and was on top of him.
    Yea I put a question mark behind the first sentence because I wasn't totally sure about that one. I sure wouldn't want to get accused of Hyperbole, LOL....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    What is the purpose of a neighborhood watch if not to keep an eye on the neighborhood and anybody or anything that might be a threat to the folks who live there, if that is not the purpose then why have a watch.... I don't believe Mr. Zimmerman was acting outside of his responsibilities by keeping an eye on this individual.... Had Mr. Martin went on his way there wouldn't be a trial going on because it is likely he would have gotten to his destination unharmed.
    Good point. I'm pretty sure that's why they call it a neighborhood watch program.

    Comments Waterdog? Maybe you prefer a neighborhood inattentiveness program? Some guy with his hoodie up is walking around you or your neighbor's house at night and you don't see what he's up to? You just call the Police and wait for them to get there while the guy just does whatever he pleases? No, most anyone whether he was on watch or not would ask him what he's doing there. If he attacked them and started pounding their head on the ground they'd do what it took to stop him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    Good point. I'm pretty sure that's why they call it a neighborhood watch program.

    Comments Waterdog? Maybe you prefer a neighborhood inattentiveness program? Some guy with his hoodie up is walking around you or your neighbor's house at night and you don't see what he's up to? You just call the Police and wait for them to get there while the guy just does whatever he pleases? No, most anyone whether he was on watch or not would ask him what he's doing there. If he attacked them and started pounding their head on the ground they'd do what it took to stop him.
    I think dog would be LYING if he said a thug looking dude in a hoodie would not generate suspicion on his part.

    I've armed myself and walked outside NUMEROUS times under very similar circumstances......Sorry if you don't agree, or think it is right or whatever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I think dog would be LYING if he said a thug looking dude in a hoodie would not generate suspicion on his part.

    I've armed myself and walked outside NUMEROUS times under very similar circumstances......Sorry if you don't agree, or think it is right or whatever...

    Later,

    geo
    I agree with you 100%.....I actually pulled my gun twice through the years and both times it was in my home (s). First time, I came home from work and noticed closet doors open as soon as I walked in that I didn't remember leaving opened(at that time I had the only key). I had my Black Lab with me and I sent him one way in the house while I walked around the stairwell the other way so we could meet in the middle. Nothing was missing and I didn't hear anyone upstairs but I was NERVOUS!!
    I sent him upstairs and got myself so worked up that I would have jumped though the ceiling if I heard someone screaming or hurting my dog. I was walking softly and cleared each room as I went down the hallway. Checked under beds. closets and behind doors. I was pretty sure it was cool once I saw MAXX and he was acting normal. I was packing a Kimber .45 Ultra CDP.

    Second time, we get told the day before by a neighbor (a stay at home mom) that a young white guy walks up to the door and is looking in the windows and knocking on the doors while we were at work and since no one answered someone in a white Honda picked him up and they drove off....the little turd stole our lighter that lights the tiki torches!

    So the next day I get to my girlfriends house around 10am to check on it because the neighborhood was being targeted by thieves and I was stopping in to make it look occupied at random times in case we were being watched.....I mean one or two B&E's a week and some being reported while we were still driving out of the area on our way to work gets you kinda skittish!! Anyway, I got there and the security wasn't on(not monitored at that time) so I just knew we had been hit! This is a 3 story house and plenty of rooms to hide in so since I didn't have MAXX with me I just systematically checked each room and floor and listened for creaks as i walked thankfully no sign of an intruder. I was packing a full sized .45 Kimber Eclipse that time.

    The thieves were caught not long after that (young white men and a girl) and their M.O. was to knock on doors to see if anyone was home, if someone answered they tried to sell you yard service and asked questions...ohh your husband mows? Oh your son mows? Oh you have a service already? Things like that. If no one answered and they could see/get enough info and determine you were a target you got hit. One house was hit and the crook broke in but didn't count on the young girl being home sick from school so she called the police once she heard the commotion. I hate a thief! Of course we were told later they were druggies and looking for stuff to sell.

    I am a believer of not looking like a easy target when out and about and the same goes for my residence. Security, basic CCTV, security signs, timers on interior lights and the looks of a dog living there are big to me. Knowing your neighbors and talking with them is a good thing as well.

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