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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    haha. You are so right. Funny you mentioned that and I forget to put that in my post. As last night I ended up going to lowes and bought a 4 ft long aluminum conduit pipe for just such purposes. And then I spend another few bucks on a longer 1/2" drive ratcheting socket wrench. The stupid thing cost me 69 bucks but I'll not be in this predicament the next time I need more power to take off a nut or something. But $69 is a lot of money for a socket wrench don't you think? Oh well I charged it on my VISA card and still have the receipt. I can use it and then take it back to the store and get my money back. Or I'll just take it to the repair shop and get it done there. They said it would only cost 39 bucks to do the job with the added cost of parts. Every one else in Newburgh and Evansville and Haubstat wants 75 dollars and hour to work in the Snapper Rider and they can't tell me how long it will take to do the job. Perhaps an hour .... perhaps it may take longer. They can't guarantee me a time frame over the phone. But the other shop said it would only cost 36 or 39 dollars to do the job. That's a lot cheaper than 75 bucks. And hopefully the part cost are the same no matter where I go to have it fixed. I'll find out tomorrow.

    I'll keep the long aluminum breaker bar so that I can slide it over my other socket wrench handles to increase the leverage.

    I still can't get the nut off the blade on the rider mower. I have a 3/4" socket to take the nut and bolt apart to remove the blade. There are two of these 3/4" heads by 1" long bolts that I have to unscrew before I can take the blade off. I have to take the blade off so that I can attaches something to the arbor to hold it still while I use the breaker bar or the air impact wrench at the top to get the pulley nut off. It's a two man job and I don't have any one to help me to this in a timely manner. So off to the shop it goes tomorrow. Why is everything so hard to do and so complicated? So they can make more money off me and you? I guess. I want easy to fix stuff not hard to fix stuff.

    Saturday was not my day. I got half way across town and then found out that I forget my wallet. I had to turn around and drive back home to get the wallet. By that time it was too late to do anything but have some drinks and relax.

    I can always use the breaker bar on the tire lug nuts as they use an air impact wrench to put them puppies on.
    I'm sorry man, but if you USE that 69 dollar tool, you OWN it..........

    Nothing PISSES me off more than when someone buys , uses, and then RETURNS a tool.....I call ********.

    Now, there is nothing wrong, if you buy, use, and it is the wrong tool, but in your case, you KNOW you're taking it back, and in my mind that is just as good as theft.

    Later,

    Geo

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I'm sorry man, but if you USE that 69 dollar tool, you OWN it..........

    Nothing PISSES me off more than when someone buys , uses, and then RETURNS a tool.....I call ********.

    Now, there is nothing wrong, if you buy, use, and it is the wrong tool, but in your case, you KNOW you're taking it back, and in my mind that is just as good as theft.

    Later,

    Geo
    Let's see here..ah yes the definition of theft:

    1. criminal law the dishonest taking of property belonging to another person with the intention of depriving the owner permanently of its possession

    See that word permanently? I would hardly call taking a tool back after it is used theft, more like borrowing. Besides, if I buy a tool, thinking it is too expensive for what I am using it for, or it is a combination of being too expensive and not exactly the right tool for what I want, and then use it and take it back, there is nothing wrong with that. That is what a return/exchange policy is in place for. But to each his own I guess....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM4A1 View Post
    Let's see here..ah yes the definition of theft:

    1. criminal law the dishonest taking of property belonging to another person with the intention of depriving the owner permanently of its possession

    See that word permanently? I would hardly call taking a tool back after it is used theft, more like borrowing. Besides, if I buy a tool, thinking it is too expensive for what I am using it for, or it is a combination of being too expensive and not exactly the right tool for what I want, and then use it and take it back, there is nothing wrong with that. That is what a return/exchange policy is in place for. But to each his own I guess....
    If you buy something, use it and take it back..........that is dishonest..if you don't see that, then I feel sorry for you.

    PERIOD.

    If you buy something, use it and it is not the right fit, or not the right tool, and you take it back, that is fine. I've done it many times, and recently did it with my home repairs.

    The key here is the premeditated process of buying, using, TAKING BACK. I've never done that and NEVER WILL..

    Later,

    Geo

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    If you buy something, use it and take it back..........that is dishonest..if you don't see that, then I feel sorry for you.

    PERIOD.

    If you buy something, use it and it is not the right fit, or not the right tool, and you take it back, that is fine. I've done it many times, and recently did it with my home repairs.

    The key here is the premeditated process of buying, using, TAKING BACK. I've never done that and NEVER WILL..

    Later,

    Geo
    Good for you. I haven't either. I was just disagreeing with what you had stated previously about it being theft. So no need to feel sorry for me. (that thing right there is a period, no need to be redundant)

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    Cool Calm down George!

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I'm sorry man, but if you USE that 69 dollar tool, you OWN it..........

    Nothing PISSES me off more than when someone buys , uses, and then RETURNS a tool.....I call ********.

    Now, there is nothing wrong, if you buy, use, and it is the wrong tool, but in your case, you KNOW you're taking it back, and in my mind that is just as good as theft.

    Later,

    Geo

    I never used the tool and I am keeping it anyway. Geeze you get too excited too fast! I still may take it back as it's too big and I fear that it being a ratchet type device it would break if I put too much pressure on it. And that's why they made it with a 24" long handle. But I doubt that the ratchet mechanism is going to hold up in the long time.

    I said that I took the rider into the shop Monday and only worked on it Saturday before that. So there is no work being done on the lawm mower since Saturday morning and I didn't buy the tool until Saturday night. It's still brand new and never used. I did take the stupid plastic thing off the tool so I could see how it worked and put a new socket on it to make sure it would do the job if I needed it. I like to know what I'm buying before I get it home but at Lowes the put plastic type locks of or something on the sockets and the socket wrenches.

    I did have a breaker bar in my shopping cart Saturday night but I put it back after playing around with it and seeing if I could fit it's handle inside the 1/2" aluminum conduit that I bought and will use as a force multiplier on my own breaker bar that I already had at home.

    Do you get mad at people that use a tape measure at the store to measure something in the store and then put the tape measure back on the display? If so then I'm guilty of doing that.

    But I'm not guilty of taking a tool home, using it and then taking it back after I get the job done. Sorry if I mislead you. I did think about it though. But it was just an idea and never carried out.

    What I think is a crime is charging $69 for a simple socket wrench just because it's got a longer handle. Perhaps the ratcheting mechanism is made out of titanium or something? But I doubt that. It's just over priced. But hey, it's only money and I can't take it with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    What I think is a crime is charging $69 for a simple socket wrench just because it's got a longer handle. Perhaps the ratcheting mechanism is made out of titanium or something? But I doubt that. It's just over priced.
    Amen. Thankfully I buy most of my stuff on ebay, unless the local hardware store has a good deal.

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    I should look into that Ebay thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM4A1 View Post
    Amen. Thankfully I buy most of my stuff on ebay, unless the local hardware store has a good deal.
    I have a lot of stuff that I could sell someday. One of my other neighbors like to go to the Storage Place sales and buy stuff that people default on. He takes all that stuff home and sells some of it on Ebay and the rest at his yard sales.

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    Getting a little off topic fellows .........................

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    Wink Maybe I can sell some Donuts! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by bassmanic1 View Post
    Getting a little off topic fellows .........................
    Sorry. I drove over there last night and the doughnuts were not too bad. It looked like someone just turned around in the parking lot a little too sharply.

    I see some kids on 4 wheelers driving into the parking lot at the South end of Bluegrass and we told the kid he was not allowed to be on the property with a 4 wheeler. They are prohibited on the Bluegrass Fish and Wildlife Property.

    Now if they can get the rest of the 4 wheel drive trucks to keep off the grass and stop digging ruts into the grassy areas after a rain.

    And I see people who park their cars right in the road (Euler Road) by the ditch that runs under the road. I guess they are too **** stupid to realize that they can't park in the middle of the street. They need to fish where there is a parking lot and not try to catch fish in the ditch when it rains. I just drive around them and give them a look that says "What the hell are you doing?" I wish that the Sheriff would give them a ticket for parking their vehicles in the roadway and leaving it there. It's a good thing that the road is not that busy but then again there is a lot more traffic out there these days.

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    When it rains it pours.

    Got home and remembered that when I finished cutting the grass with the self propelled snapper that it was acting strange. It would continue to move forward even after I let off the level that engages the self propelled drive.

    So I looked at the thing and noticed that the drive shaft was not level anymore. The bearings had fallen out where the end of the shaft was held in place. I was able to fix this myself easily. Thank god for that. The new bearings were less than 10 bucks and slipped into place quickly and easily.

    At least now I can still cut my grass with the Snapper Self Propelled lawn mower until I get my Snapper Hi VAC rider back from the shop. They are only 5 days behind right now and everyone else said that they were about two weeks behind. Scotty's is pretty busy this time of the year. And the place I took the Rider to is closer to home.

    I hate cutting grass anyway. If it's hot again this summer maybe the grass wont' grow! I don't mind when the grass turns brown and doesn't need to be cut. LOL. I can go for a couple of weeks if it doesn't rain and it's above 95 Deg F. I love winter as the grass is not growing. Falls a lot of work with all the leaves that have to be mulched off the yard. My mom's house has a bunch of older maple trees that require a lot of work in the spring and fall.

    Now I have to find a new gas hedge trimmer for my next door neighbor. I borrowed his Troy-Bilt Model TB25GHT and it broke while I was using it to trim some of my mom's schrubbery. The gears were shot and three different certified repair shops said that it cost more to fix it than it was worth. So now I own my neighbor a new one of equivalent worth. I figured out that he paid about $180 for it three years ago. They don't sell these anymore. After talking to all the Troy Bilt authorized repair shops I can see why now. They were cheap and made to throw away. Not commercial grade and the parts to repair them are over priced and hard to get I guess. I was surprised that no one would repair it for me.

    Anyway I found out from one dealer that the TroyBilt and Roybei are the same as they are made by the same manufacture and just have different lables on them. So I'm thinking about giving him about $100 to up to $150 to help him buy a new hedge trimmer. I think that fair as it was used and was about three years old when I used it.

    And when I first asked him if I could borrow it to trim some bushes he at first said that he didn't have it anymore and it was at his brother's house. His favorite excuse when I ask to borrow stuff. I let him borrow my tools all the time. He tried to keep one of my hammers as while I was helping him fix his deck his son had gotten it out of his tool shed and was carrying it around. I asked him about that hammer a while back and he said he didn't have it. And then he tried to lock up my magnetic pick up too that I bought to get the nails out of my yard. He took his old deck apart and asked me if he could burn it in my back yard where I burn yard waste. He didn't want to burn the wood in his yard for some reason. Perhaps it was because he was too lazy to take the nails/screws out of the wood and didn't want them in his yard? I really didn't want him to burn them in my yard and he said that he would get the screws and nails out of my yard after he burned the wood up. I've heard that before. But at least I got my magnetic pick up tool out of his tool shed before he could lock it up. To be fair maybe he was keeping in in his shed for safe keeping until he could find the time to come over and clean up the nails out of my yard. That's probably what he was thinking. He's really a pretty good guy and neighbor. Which is why I'm going to pay for a new gas hedge trimmer for him. But I'm not going to get him a $350 Gas Hedge Trimmer. That would not be fair to pay that much for a unit that was much better than the one he let me use.

    I would think that they would put a shear pin or something like that in these hedge trimmers to protect the gears in case you tried to cut a limb that's too big.

    Oh, yea. When I got the hedge trimmer at first he tried to tell me he didn't have it and I gave him that look. He knew that I let him borrow stuff all the time from me so he laugh and said he was only kidding and that yes I could use it. But I'd have to get it running first. He had an old spark plug in it and it would not start. He tried to start it for 15 minutes before he tired out. I said let me work on it so I took it home and removed the spark plug and cleaned it up with a file and some sea foam. I used Sea foam and carb cleaner in the hole where the spark plug was and then cleaned the air filter up too. After all that work it finally started. Oh yea I had to mix up some new gas and throw the old gas out. It was sitting in his tool shed for a while before we tried to start it and there was no way it would start before I cleaned it up. Once I got it started the first time it ran good. It was working pretty good until I accidently hit a big limb in one of my mom's evergreen shrubs. I could not reach that shrub with my electric hedge trimmer as it was too far away from any outlets at my mom's house. She's 87 and needs a lot of help with her yard work. So I drive out there and help here with the yard work and other things. Sandwitch Generation I am. At least I don't have the kid anymore. She is grown up and moved out of town and has three kids of her own now.

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