Made the wrong Decision

[GeoFisher]

I think some of that pedo stuff is out there because one of Zimmerman's cousins has publically said that he molested her for years when they were younger. Who knows if it is true or not, but It isn't all coming from just the Martin family.

Yep........but they are changing the narrative and LOTS of others are too.

[Moveon]

Now George there is no need to attack Jeantel. BTW: thanks for telling me her name as I had forgot her name.

Did you see her testify ? It was on all the news shows. CNN and MSNBC and HLN covered the trial more than most other stations.

I also saw her talking to Piers Morgan and she did another interview with another TV cable show after the interview with Piers Morgan. She did much better in the last interview. She told the audience what Trevon was saying during her phone conversation with him while George was following Trevon the night that George Shot Trevon though the heart with his handgun.

You should listen to what she said and not dismiss her so easily since she doesn't speak English as her first language.

BTW: I've heard that these getting some funding to go to college. Not sure where I heard that but I think it was on one of the cable new shows.

[GeoFisher]

Now George there is no need to attack Jeantel. BTW: thanks for telling me her name as I had forgot her name.

Did you see her testify ? It was on all the news shows. CNN and MSNBC and HLN covered the trial more than most other stations.

I also saw her talking to Piers Morgan and she did another interview with another TV cable show after the interview with Piers Morgan. She did much better in the last interview. She told the audience what Trevon was saying during her phone conversation with him while George was following Trevon the night that George Shot Trevon though the heart with his handgun.

You should listen to what she said and not dismiss her so easily since she doesn't speak English as her first language.

BTW: I've heard that these getting some funding to go to college. Not sure where I heard that but I think it was on one of the cable new shows.

Yea, I watched the interview.

AND what jumped out to me clearly is that Jeantel and Martin committed a HATE CRIME against Zimmerman, by TARGETING him has a gay man.

Did you not get that, or are you simply ignoring that fact.....

At the same time LEFTIES in the media and Obama, and Sharpton, and Jessie Jackson and the "rainbow coalition" are attacking Zimmerman, trying to find any spec of dirt that "might" make him look bad. Hell the Justice Department is PAYING people to find dirt.

You gotta be kidding me........

Hell if I was Zimmerman, I'd be suing the **** out of Jeantel and the Martins, and ANYONE ELSE pushing the story that he is a pedo.

Finally, I wonder why FAG groups all around the country are not pounding on CNN and other media outlets. Jeantel and Martin committed a hate crime.

SPIN that crap.

Later,

Geo

[Moveon]

Just curious where your getting this stalking as fact idea from? The idea of a little brother being protected is news to me as well. Can you give a link? I haven't heard this...
Zimmerman defiantly profiled the young man?? How do you know this? He didn't take the stand and say that did he?

Do you ever watch Anderson Cooper, Piers Morgan, CNN or MSNBC, CBS, ABC or NBC news? I heard about the little brother ( I think it was a half brother or maybe it was a cousin ). I heard this when Piers Morgan interviews the black Hatian Girl who Trevon was talking to on the phone while Zimmerman was following Trevon. Trevon knew he was being followed by Zimmerman and though he was in danger. This is what the girl told the world in the interview. She's been on a couple of other shows and was one of the best witnesses in the trial as she was on the phone with Trevon though most of this ordeal. She has first hand knowledge about what Trevon was saying and feeling at the time. Trevon was afraid of the guy and called Zimmerman a "Cracka" Which is slang for a wanabe cop or something to that effect. I'm sorry but I can't remember the girls name at the moment. She's not really from here origionally and is not that well educated in our language "English".

As for the Stalking thing. I think that if you are following someone then you are stalking them. Following someone like this is by definition "Stalking". George was making it his business to act like he was a policeman and he really didn't have the right to do that.

If a black man followed you in his car while you were on foot and unarmed and in the dark while it was raining and he got out of his car and followed you around what would you think? Put yourself in Trevon's shoes for a moment and think about how he must have felt when he realized that Zimmerman was following him? I know I'd not like it if I had someone follow me. I'd want to know what the hell they were doing following me around. Which is one reason I'm buying a hand gun pretty soon to keep myself armed and protected from this type of situation. One never knows who's following them and what their intentions are?

All Trevon wanted to do was go home and watch the basketball game and eat his skittles.

Remember it was George Zimmerman who trained in the Martial Arts school not Trevon. And it was Zimmerman who was packing heat.

I personally watched the trail and don't think that George told the truth. How could George get his gun out of his holster when it was stick inside his pants and more to his back side than on his side. And he was laying down on his back with Trevon on top of him with Trevon's knees up into George's armpits. There is no way that George could have gotten his gun out of his back pants when Trevon on top of him. He has to have had the gun out already and ready to shoot.

Or what if George did stalk the kid and shoot him before the fight and then injure himself to make it look like there was a fight. George knew about the Stand your Ground Law and how it worked. He even lied about that. Why did he say he was not familiar with the SYG law? The cuts to the back of George's head were superficial and he had not concussions or skull fractures. The cut was barely over 1/2" long. 2 cm long. And the the small cut was even shorter than that. Cut's to the head bleed profusely as the skulp if full of blood vessels. So a small cut looks like you hit an artery. Once Georges head was cleaned up you could see how small the two cuts were. If Trevon hit George in the Nose Trevon would have brused his right hand. But he didn't have an damage what so ever to his right hand. I think that Trevon was Right Handed too. The only damage to Trevon other than the gun shot wound was a small abrasion on his left hand.

If someone was following me with a gun I'd be running or fighting for my life too. There is no way I could be blamed for trying to stop someone from following me with a gun. But I sure would not lead them back to my house if I had a little brother there who could also be hurt. I'd lead the stalker away from the house to save the little kid. That's exactly what the girl said Trevon told her on the phone.

Piers Morgan did the first interview with this black girl from Haiti. But I saw her interviewed on another TV show later one and she was looking a lot better. She had been given a hair and dress make over and looked a lot more presentable than she did in court. And She was a lot more relaxed than she was during the trail. She really didn't want to testify in the trial but was forced to testify by the prosecutor.

If you missed these interviews then you missed a lot.

We have one juror who said she believed Georges' story 100% and that's juror 37b. She's a caucasion woman who's married to an attorney. The other juror who voted for 2nd degree murder was part Hispanic and had several kids of her own. We don't know what the other three jurors thought or said. All they have said so far is that Juror 37 didn't speak for them. They evidently didn't want anything to do with what Juror 37B said. I personally think that after listing to Juror 37b interview with Anderson Cooper on CNN that she already had her mind made up about this case and was supporting George from the beginning to the end. I was amazed and shocked at what she said in her interview with Anderson Cooper.

This trial split America right down racial lines with few exceptions. Most white people think that Zimmerman was the good guy and Trevon was the bad guy. That's the racial bias that we all have and have grown up with. It's very hard to understand this from the black peoples side unless you can try to put your self in their shoes for a moments and see what they see daily in their lives. We have not really treated them very well in the past. I mean this country fought a 4 year long civil war over blacks and slavery. And there are still some southern whites that claim that they are still fighting the civil war of the 1864. One friend of mine from Memphis University still thinks that the South won the Civil War. He will tell you that with a straight face too. But his likes to prank people a lot so I take him with a grain of salt or two. He really is a pretty good guy.

[DJD]

Do you ever watch Anderson Cooper, Piers Morgan, CNN or MSNBC, CBS, ABC or NBC news? I heard about the little brother ( I think it was a half brother or maybe it was a cousin ). I heard this when Piers Morgan interviews the black Hatian Girl who Trevon was talking to on the phone while Zimmerman was following Trevon. Trevon knew he was being followed by Zimmerman and though he was in danger. This is what the girl told the world in the interview. She's been on a couple of other shows and was one of the best witnesses in the trial as she was on the phone with Trevon though most of this ordeal. She has first hand knowledge about what Trevon was saying and feeling at the time. Trevon was afraid of the guy and called Zimmerman a "Cracka" Which is slang for a wanabe cop or something to that effect. I'm sorry but I can't remember the girls name at the moment. She's not really from here origionally and is not that well educated in our language "English".

As for the Stalking thing. I think that if you are following someone then you are stalking them. Following someone like this is by definition "Stalking". George was making it his business to act like he was a policeman and he really didn't have the right to do that.

If a black man followed you in his car while you were on foot and unarmed and in the dark while it was raining and he got out of his car and followed you around what would you think? Put yourself in Trevon's shoes for a moment and think about how he must have felt when he realized that Zimmerman was following him? I know I'd not like it if I had someone follow me. I'd want to know what the hell they were doing following me around. Which is one reason I'm buying a hand gun pretty soon to keep myself armed and protected from this type of situation. One never knows who's following them and what their intentions are?

All Trevon wanted to do was go home and watch the basketball game and eat his skittles.

Remember it was George Zimmerman who trained in the Martial Arts school not Trevon. And it was Zimmerman who was packing heat.

I personally watched the trail and don't think that George told the truth. How could George get his gun out of his holster when it was stick inside his pants and more to his back side than on his side. And he was laying down on his back with Trevon on top of him with Trevon's knees up into George's armpits. There is no way that George could have gotten his gun out of his back pants when Trevon on top of him. He has to have had the gun out already and ready to shoot.

Or what if George did stalk the kid and shoot him before the fight and then injure himself to make it look like there was a fight. George knew about the Stand your Ground Law and how it worked. He even lied about that. Why did he say he was not familiar with the SYG law? The cuts to the back of George's head were superficial and he had not concussions or skull fractures. The cut was barely over 1/2" long. 2 cm long. And the the small cut was even shorter than that. Cut's to the head bleed profusely as the skulp if full of blood vessels. So a small cut looks like you hit an artery. Once Georges head was cleaned up you could see how small the two cuts were. If Trevon hit George in the Nose Trevon would have brused his right hand. But he didn't have an damage what so ever to his right hand. I think that Trevon was Right Handed too. The only damage to Trevon other than the gun shot wound was a small abrasion on his left hand.

If someone was following me with a gun I'd be running or fighting for my life too. There is no way I could be blamed for trying to stop someone from following me with a gun. But I sure would not lead them back to my house if I had a little brother there who could also be hurt. I'd lead the stalker away from the house to save the little kid. That's exactly what the girl said Trevon told her on the phone.

Piers Morgan did the first interview with this black girl from Haiti. But I saw her interviewed on another TV show later one and she was looking a lot better. She had been given a hair and dress make over and looked a lot more presentable than she did in court. And She was a lot more relaxed than she was during the trail. She really didn't want to testify in the trial but was forced to testify by the prosecutor.

If you missed these interviews then you missed a lot.

We have one juror who said she believed Georges' story 100% and that's juror 37b. She's a caucasion woman who's married to an attorney. The other juror who voted for 2nd degree murder was part Hispanic and had several kids of her own. We don't know what the other three jurors thought or said. All they have said so far is that Juror 37 didn't speak for them. They evidently didn't want anything to do with what Juror 37B said. I personally think that after listing to Juror 37b interview with Anderson Cooper on CNN that she already had her mind made up about this case and was supporting George from the beginning to the end. I was amazed and shocked at what she said in her interview with Anderson Cooper.

This trial split America right down racial lines with few exceptions. Most white people think that Zimmerman was the good guy and Trevon was the bad guy. That's the racial bias that we all have and have grown up with. It's very hard to understand this from the black peoples side unless you can try to put your self in their shoes for a moments and see what they see daily in their lives. We have not really treated them very well in the past. I mean this country fought a 4 year long civil war over blacks and slavery. And there are still some southern whites that claim that they are still fighting the civil war of the 1864. One friend of mine from Memphis University still thinks that the South won the Civil War. He will tell you that with a straight face too. But his likes to prank people a lot so I take him with a grain of salt or two. He really is a pretty good guy.

Nope I don't watch Morgan since he is a way left butt job. If your falling into the trap of listening to the folks you quoted then I see why you think the way you do. You keep saying what "if" and putting alot of spin into what you think happened. I really think you have crossed over from facts to opinions and white guilt. Your describing this as a good guy bad guy thing?? This was never the idea....Was it? It was a tragedy and no one comes out as a good guy....only innocent or guilty.

Most black people? I'm sorry man but your way off there. How in the world do you know that? Some silly poll? Actually, Poll 1000 blacks from the inner city and i bet your right. Seeing idiots in the streets and having people like Al and Obama pushing the race card doesn't mean most black people nor does Zimmerman have the support of most white people....Does he? I know a few non black people who think GZ was guilty. Really reads like your rubbing shoulders with al Sharpton and Obama with talk like that. I see the division more along liberal versus conservative in my group of friends and extended social media network.
Oh well....life goes on and another case of love the poor black person and their years of suffering goes into the books when it should never had been about that.
My opinion.....Martin was a punk thug, he idolized it. GZ wishes he would never had got out of the car.

[Hlleonard]

Why is Mr Zimmerman "Zimmerman" and Mr. Martin "Trevon" to the folks who want to lynch George Zimmerman?

[Moveon]

Why is Mr Zimmerman "Zimmerman" and Mr. Martin "Trevon" to the folks who want to lynch George Zimmerman?

Some people call Trevon "Punk" and "Criminal". Could it be an accident that I called him George one time and then Zimmerman another? I think it was because I wanted to use a variety in my sentences and not use the same name over and over again. That's just my writing style for me.


I wonder why juror 37B refered to George Zimmerman as "Georgie"? She sure did sympathize with Mr. George Zimmerman more than the other Juror who spoke out to the media. The Hispanic woman that is.

I think that Juror 37B believed every thing that George said and discounted all the other testimony for the most part. And also the way the law is written you have to have proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was guilty and since the black kid was not there anymore to tell his side of the story a lot of the eye witness testimony was lost. Thus no convictions. George made sure that Trevon was dead when he shot him a point blank range and though the heart. Thus the only person still alive to tell the tail was George. Now the question is do you believe what George Said or not? Evidently the prosecutor didn't believe him but some of the police in the mostly all white town did.

This case will never go way I fear. No one is going to change their mind now so what's the use in talking about it anymore.

[Moveon]

Yeah I call bullcrap!!! Whose fault is it she didn't stick to her decision??? Somebody intimidate her? She speak and understand English???
I'll make a judgement call....she is an idiot. She had all the resources at her disposal during the trial and she made her decision. Imo..she is now listening to others and armchair QB opinions based on emotion not facts or law and she feels guilty for doing the right thing based upon the law. My gosh if a person was to watch the news now you would think Martin was a sweet little boy who just got shot by a big old mean man.
Bottom line Zimmerman killed a man who was more than likely gonna kill him or put him in extreme pain...possibly for life so he shot the young man to defend himself. He went to trial and was found innocent. This lady is trying to get something or some notoriety. I call bullcrap! Your not sleeping good huh?? I don't think you ever slept well with 8 kids!

Actually she was not influenced by any thing but the trial evidence and the other jurors in the jury room.

I don't think she was wrong on her first vote.

Zimmerman still could face two more trials on this murder case. He could be sued civilly by the family and they could make him get on the stand and testify before the jury and judge. He never did that in the State Criminal Trail in Florida.

And then the Feds can still charge him with civil rights violations and that's a good possibility after the civil trial is over. The Feds can use any thing that Zimmerman has said in the past and during a Civil Trial against George Zimmerman.

And then he will also finally have to answer to God some day. That will be the real trial. If he lied he will go to hell and if he's telling the truth then he will go to heaven I guess. Only God really knows if he lied or told the truth and he will be judged by that and other things he did in his life.

I think that George made the big mistake in not backing off and waiting for the police to arrive. He really didn't have to get out of his vehicle to chase or stalk Trevon. That's the police's job not Zimmermans. We don't need vigilantes in this Country. I think that George made a mistake by following the kid.

And that Video that someone showed is BS. I've never heard such a biased report in all my life. According to that guy he and his right wing WEB SITEs are true journalist and the other major news media outlets are all biased. Funny how he got that backwards!

[DJD]

And that Video that someone showed is BS. I've never heard such a biased report in all my life. According to that guy he and his right wing WEB SITEs are true journalist and the other major news media outlets are all biased. Funny how he got that backwards!

Hahahaha have you bumped your head??? Did you forget how the dispatch tapes were manipulated and put out as facts on this case and then retracted later?? Your aware this was turned into a race issue by these so called media outlets and tapes...
I find it hard to believe anyone can say mainstream media is not biased to the left unless you lean left in your beliefs but in this case it was criminal what they did. For example....Fox news leans right and I watch fox but I'm not going to say they don't do that.

[SLP]

And then he will also finally have to answer to God some day. That will be the real trial. If he lied he will go to hell and if he's telling the truth then he will go to heaven I guess. Only God really knows if he lied or told the truth and he will be judged by that and other things he did in his life.

Not to derail this thread, but I don't believe that whether or not we will go to heaven or hell is based on if we have lied or told the truth, or if we have sinned or not sinned certain amounts. We can't earn it ourselves for all have sinned and are deserving of hell when compared to Gods standards.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:- Eph 2:8

I think that George made the big mistake in not backing off and waiting for the police to arrive. He really didn't have to get out of his vehicle to chase or stalk Trevon. That's the police's job not Zimmermans. We don't need vigilantes in this Country. I think that George made a mistake by following the kid.

I agree with you in the sense that personally I also would have done things differently. However the facts are before then later telling him to return to his car the operator first had told him to let them know if he (TM) did anything suspicious. Also there is nothing illegal about following someone. He didn't break any laws in doing so. If TM had not chosen to assault Zimmerman none of this would have ever happened. That is the true cause of why it happened, and not because Zimmerman didn't stay in his car.

[waterdog101]

If TM had not chosen to assault Zimmerman none of this would have ever happened. That is the true cause of why it happened, and not because Zimmerman didn't stay in his car.

have you ever wondered, what Zimmerman said to the boy when he got out of his car. that made the boy so mad he wanted to fight. Zimmerman is the only one that is alive, that heard that conversation. and my guess would be it wasn't very nice. any man that is a man, will break a strangers nose that gets out of a car and gets up in his face for no reason. I don't care from what angle you look at it, if you will be honest in answering who caused this death, I think the answer will be the man that followed the boy, and got out of his car and made the boy mad enough to fight him. and the man was Zimmerman.

[riverrat12]

have you ever wondered, what Zimmerman said to the boy when he got out of his car. that made the boy so mad he wanted to fight. Zimmerman is the only one that is alive, that heard that conversation. and my guess would be it wasn't very nice. any man that is a man, will break a strangers nose that gets out of a car and gets up in his face for no reason. I don't care from what angle you look at it, if you will be honest in answering who caused this death, I think the answer will be the man that followed the boy, and got out of his car and made the boy mad enough to fight him. and the man was Zimmerman.

You know way back when I was 17, and in a place I probably shouldn't be, and a MAN were to yell at me...I would have ran regardless of what the MAN said....I'd be thinking I'm out of here...not hey I didn't like what he said I'm goin back and kicking the MANS azz. I guess thats how things have changed since I was a boy. Fished many a farm pond that I wasn't invited to back in the day....I knew when the farmer was headin my way I was gone...not hanging out to confront him with his double barrell. Just tired of all the media attention this is getting, when there were at least 5 black on black shootings in the west end LAST WEEK and thats ok....just because it didn't involve a white latino...SAD