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    He wasn't stalking, he was merely following him which is perfectly legal. Here is a legal definition of stalking.

    A person who intentionally and repeatedly follows or harasses another person and who makes a credible threat, either expressed or implied, with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or serious bodily harm is guilty of the crime of stalking. A person may be charged with aggravated stalking if they commit the crime of stalking while subject to a temporary restraining order, injunction against trespass, or similar order.
    Stalkers target public figures or celebrities, children, and sometimes even complete strangers. But, in most cases, a stalker is someone you know and with whom you have had a relationship. Criminal statutes which can be used in an effort to deter stalking include laws against harassment and assault, as well as a specific stalking law.
    http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/stalking/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Just curious where your getting this stalking as fact idea from? The idea of a little brother being protected is news to me as well. Can you give a link? I haven't heard this...
    Zimmerman defiantly profiled the young man?? How do you know this? He didn't take the stand and say that did he?
    That is how the Martin family and LEFTIST are spinning it after the horrible testimony by jeantel. AND after that crazy,. uneducated crak addicted skank basically stated that zimmerman was a pedophile on CNN, the Martin camp RAN with it.

    ALL kinds of crazy **** out there about Zimmerman and Martin thinking he was a pedo. EVEN though that never was stated in deposition, in court, in interviews or anything.

    BTW.....the Martins are PROFITING off the death of their kid. Neither had ever been to New York or LA, yet both have been multiple times.......and PAID for their interviews.

    Yea, I'm a skeptic. AND I'd be damned sure I would not be trying to spin this ********.

    They raised a kid destined to be shot dead. THEY need to face the facts......

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    I think some of that pedo stuff is out there because one of Zimmerman's cousins has publically said that he molested her for years when they were younger. Who knows if it is true or not, but It isn't all coming from just the Martin family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLP View Post
    I think some of that pedo stuff is out there because one of Zimmerman's cousins has publically said that he molested her for years when they were younger. Who knows if it is true or not, but It isn't all coming from just the Martin family.
    Yep........but they are changing the narrative and LOTS of others are too.

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    The little brother was at home

    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Just curious where your getting this stalking as fact idea from? The idea of a little brother being protected is news to me as well. Can you give a link? I haven't heard this...
    Zimmerman defiantly profiled the young man?? How do you know this? He didn't take the stand and say that did he?
    Do you ever watch Anderson Cooper, Piers Morgan, CNN or MSNBC, CBS, ABC or NBC news? I heard about the little brother ( I think it was a half brother or maybe it was a cousin ). I heard this when Piers Morgan interviews the black Hatian Girl who Trevon was talking to on the phone while Zimmerman was following Trevon. Trevon knew he was being followed by Zimmerman and though he was in danger. This is what the girl told the world in the interview. She's been on a couple of other shows and was one of the best witnesses in the trial as she was on the phone with Trevon though most of this ordeal. She has first hand knowledge about what Trevon was saying and feeling at the time. Trevon was afraid of the guy and called Zimmerman a "Cracka" Which is slang for a wanabe cop or something to that effect. I'm sorry but I can't remember the girls name at the moment. She's not really from here origionally and is not that well educated in our language "English".

    As for the Stalking thing. I think that if you are following someone then you are stalking them. Following someone like this is by definition "Stalking". George was making it his business to act like he was a policeman and he really didn't have the right to do that.

    If a black man followed you in his car while you were on foot and unarmed and in the dark while it was raining and he got out of his car and followed you around what would you think? Put yourself in Trevon's shoes for a moment and think about how he must have felt when he realized that Zimmerman was following him? I know I'd not like it if I had someone follow me. I'd want to know what the hell they were doing following me around. Which is one reason I'm buying a hand gun pretty soon to keep myself armed and protected from this type of situation. One never knows who's following them and what their intentions are?

    All Trevon wanted to do was go home and watch the basketball game and eat his skittles.

    Remember it was George Zimmerman who trained in the Martial Arts school not Trevon. And it was Zimmerman who was packing heat.

    I personally watched the trail and don't think that George told the truth. How could George get his gun out of his holster when it was stick inside his pants and more to his back side than on his side. And he was laying down on his back with Trevon on top of him with Trevon's knees up into George's armpits. There is no way that George could have gotten his gun out of his back pants when Trevon on top of him. He has to have had the gun out already and ready to shoot.

    Or what if George did stalk the kid and shoot him before the fight and then injure himself to make it look like there was a fight. George knew about the Stand your Ground Law and how it worked. He even lied about that. Why did he say he was not familiar with the SYG law? The cuts to the back of George's head were superficial and he had not concussions or skull fractures. The cut was barely over 1/2" long. 2 cm long. And the the small cut was even shorter than that. Cut's to the head bleed profusely as the skulp if full of blood vessels. So a small cut looks like you hit an artery. Once Georges head was cleaned up you could see how small the two cuts were. If Trevon hit George in the Nose Trevon would have brused his right hand. But he didn't have an damage what so ever to his right hand. I think that Trevon was Right Handed too. The only damage to Trevon other than the gun shot wound was a small abrasion on his left hand.

    If someone was following me with a gun I'd be running or fighting for my life too. There is no way I could be blamed for trying to stop someone from following me with a gun. But I sure would not lead them back to my house if I had a little brother there who could also be hurt. I'd lead the stalker away from the house to save the little kid. That's exactly what the girl said Trevon told her on the phone.

    Piers Morgan did the first interview with this black girl from Haiti. But I saw her interviewed on another TV show later one and she was looking a lot better. She had been given a hair and dress make over and looked a lot more presentable than she did in court. And She was a lot more relaxed than she was during the trail. She really didn't want to testify in the trial but was forced to testify by the prosecutor.

    If you missed these interviews then you missed a lot.

    We have one juror who said she believed Georges' story 100% and that's juror 37b. She's a caucasion woman who's married to an attorney. The other juror who voted for 2nd degree murder was part Hispanic and had several kids of her own. We don't know what the other three jurors thought or said. All they have said so far is that Juror 37 didn't speak for them. They evidently didn't want anything to do with what Juror 37B said. I personally think that after listing to Juror 37b interview with Anderson Cooper on CNN that she already had her mind made up about this case and was supporting George from the beginning to the end. I was amazed and shocked at what she said in her interview with Anderson Cooper.

    This trial split America right down racial lines with few exceptions. Most white people think that Zimmerman was the good guy and Trevon was the bad guy. That's the racial bias that we all have and have grown up with. It's very hard to understand this from the black peoples side unless you can try to put your self in their shoes for a moments and see what they see daily in their lives. We have not really treated them very well in the past. I mean this country fought a 4 year long civil war over blacks and slavery. And there are still some southern whites that claim that they are still fighting the civil war of the 1864. One friend of mine from Memphis University still thinks that the South won the Civil War. He will tell you that with a straight face too. But his likes to prank people a lot so I take him with a grain of salt or two. He really is a pretty good guy.

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    Now George there is no need to attack Jeantel. BTW: thanks for telling me her name as I had forgot her name.

    Did you see her testify ? It was on all the news shows. CNN and MSNBC and HLN covered the trial more than most other stations.

    I also saw her talking to Piers Morgan and she did another interview with another TV cable show after the interview with Piers Morgan. She did much better in the last interview. She told the audience what Trevon was saying during her phone conversation with him while George was following Trevon the night that George Shot Trevon though the heart with his handgun.

    You should listen to what she said and not dismiss her so easily since she doesn't speak English as her first language.

    BTW: I've heard that these getting some funding to go to college. Not sure where I heard that but I think it was on one of the cable new shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Now George there is no need to attack Jeantel. BTW: thanks for telling me her name as I had forgot her name.

    Did you see her testify ? It was on all the news shows. CNN and MSNBC and HLN covered the trial more than most other stations.

    I also saw her talking to Piers Morgan and she did another interview with another TV cable show after the interview with Piers Morgan. She did much better in the last interview. She told the audience what Trevon was saying during her phone conversation with him while George was following Trevon the night that George Shot Trevon though the heart with his handgun.

    You should listen to what she said and not dismiss her so easily since she doesn't speak English as her first language.

    BTW: I've heard that these getting some funding to go to college. Not sure where I heard that but I think it was on one of the cable new shows.
    Yea, I watched the interview.

    AND what jumped out to me clearly is that Jeantel and Martin committed a HATE CRIME against Zimmerman, by TARGETING him has a gay man.

    Did you not get that, or are you simply ignoring that fact.....

    At the same time LEFTIES in the media and Obama, and Sharpton, and Jessie Jackson and the "rainbow coalition" are attacking Zimmerman, trying to find any spec of dirt that "might" make him look bad. Hell the Justice Department is PAYING people to find dirt.

    You gotta be kidding me........

    Hell if I was Zimmerman, I'd be suing the **** out of Jeantel and the Martins, and ANYONE ELSE pushing the story that he is a pedo.

    Finally, I wonder why FAG groups all around the country are not pounding on CNN and other media outlets. Jeantel and Martin committed a hate crime.

    SPIN that crap.

    Later,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Do you ever watch Anderson Cooper, Piers Morgan, CNN or MSNBC, CBS, ABC or NBC news? I heard about the little brother ( I think it was a half brother or maybe it was a cousin ). I heard this when Piers Morgan interviews the black Hatian Girl who Trevon was talking to on the phone while Zimmerman was following Trevon. Trevon knew he was being followed by Zimmerman and though he was in danger. This is what the girl told the world in the interview. She's been on a couple of other shows and was one of the best witnesses in the trial as she was on the phone with Trevon though most of this ordeal. She has first hand knowledge about what Trevon was saying and feeling at the time. Trevon was afraid of the guy and called Zimmerman a "Cracka" Which is slang for a wanabe cop or something to that effect. I'm sorry but I can't remember the girls name at the moment. She's not really from here origionally and is not that well educated in our language "English".

    As for the Stalking thing. I think that if you are following someone then you are stalking them. Following someone like this is by definition "Stalking". George was making it his business to act like he was a policeman and he really didn't have the right to do that.

    If a black man followed you in his car while you were on foot and unarmed and in the dark while it was raining and he got out of his car and followed you around what would you think? Put yourself in Trevon's shoes for a moment and think about how he must have felt when he realized that Zimmerman was following him? I know I'd not like it if I had someone follow me. I'd want to know what the hell they were doing following me around. Which is one reason I'm buying a hand gun pretty soon to keep myself armed and protected from this type of situation. One never knows who's following them and what their intentions are?

    All Trevon wanted to do was go home and watch the basketball game and eat his skittles.

    Remember it was George Zimmerman who trained in the Martial Arts school not Trevon. And it was Zimmerman who was packing heat.

    I personally watched the trail and don't think that George told the truth. How could George get his gun out of his holster when it was stick inside his pants and more to his back side than on his side. And he was laying down on his back with Trevon on top of him with Trevon's knees up into George's armpits. There is no way that George could have gotten his gun out of his back pants when Trevon on top of him. He has to have had the gun out already and ready to shoot.

    Or what if George did stalk the kid and shoot him before the fight and then injure himself to make it look like there was a fight. George knew about the Stand your Ground Law and how it worked. He even lied about that. Why did he say he was not familiar with the SYG law? The cuts to the back of George's head were superficial and he had not concussions or skull fractures. The cut was barely over 1/2" long. 2 cm long. And the the small cut was even shorter than that. Cut's to the head bleed profusely as the skulp if full of blood vessels. So a small cut looks like you hit an artery. Once Georges head was cleaned up you could see how small the two cuts were. If Trevon hit George in the Nose Trevon would have brused his right hand. But he didn't have an damage what so ever to his right hand. I think that Trevon was Right Handed too. The only damage to Trevon other than the gun shot wound was a small abrasion on his left hand.

    If someone was following me with a gun I'd be running or fighting for my life too. There is no way I could be blamed for trying to stop someone from following me with a gun. But I sure would not lead them back to my house if I had a little brother there who could also be hurt. I'd lead the stalker away from the house to save the little kid. That's exactly what the girl said Trevon told her on the phone.

    Piers Morgan did the first interview with this black girl from Haiti. But I saw her interviewed on another TV show later one and she was looking a lot better. She had been given a hair and dress make over and looked a lot more presentable than she did in court. And She was a lot more relaxed than she was during the trail. She really didn't want to testify in the trial but was forced to testify by the prosecutor.

    If you missed these interviews then you missed a lot.

    We have one juror who said she believed Georges' story 100% and that's juror 37b. She's a caucasion woman who's married to an attorney. The other juror who voted for 2nd degree murder was part Hispanic and had several kids of her own. We don't know what the other three jurors thought or said. All they have said so far is that Juror 37 didn't speak for them. They evidently didn't want anything to do with what Juror 37B said. I personally think that after listing to Juror 37b interview with Anderson Cooper on CNN that she already had her mind made up about this case and was supporting George from the beginning to the end. I was amazed and shocked at what she said in her interview with Anderson Cooper.

    This trial split America right down racial lines with few exceptions. Most white people think that Zimmerman was the good guy and Trevon was the bad guy. That's the racial bias that we all have and have grown up with. It's very hard to understand this from the black peoples side unless you can try to put your self in their shoes for a moments and see what they see daily in their lives. We have not really treated them very well in the past. I mean this country fought a 4 year long civil war over blacks and slavery. And there are still some southern whites that claim that they are still fighting the civil war of the 1864. One friend of mine from Memphis University still thinks that the South won the Civil War. He will tell you that with a straight face too. But his likes to prank people a lot so I take him with a grain of salt or two. He really is a pretty good guy.
    Nope I don't watch Morgan since he is a way left butt job. If your falling into the trap of listening to the folks you quoted then I see why you think the way you do. You keep saying what "if" and putting alot of spin into what you think happened. I really think you have crossed over from facts to opinions and white guilt. Your describing this as a good guy bad guy thing?? This was never the idea....Was it? It was a tragedy and no one comes out as a good guy....only innocent or guilty.

    Most black people? I'm sorry man but your way off there. How in the world do you know that? Some silly poll? Actually, Poll 1000 blacks from the inner city and i bet your right. Seeing idiots in the streets and having people like Al and Obama pushing the race card doesn't mean most black people nor does Zimmerman have the support of most white people....Does he? I know a few non black people who think GZ was guilty. Really reads like your rubbing shoulders with al Sharpton and Obama with talk like that. I see the division more along liberal versus conservative in my group of friends and extended social media network.
    Oh well....life goes on and another case of love the poor black person and their years of suffering goes into the books when it should never had been about that.
    My opinion.....Martin was a punk thug, he idolized it. GZ wishes he would never had got out of the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLP View Post
    If TM had not chosen to assault Zimmerman none of this would have ever happened. That is the true cause of why it happened, and not because Zimmerman didn't stay in his car.
    have you ever wondered, what Zimmerman said to the boy when he got out of his car. that made the boy so mad he wanted to fight. Zimmerman is the only one that is alive, that heard that conversation. and my guess would be it wasn't very nice. any man that is a man, will break a strangers nose that gets out of a car and gets up in his face for no reason. I don't care from what angle you look at it, if you will be honest in answering who caused this death, I think the answer will be the man that followed the boy, and got out of his car and made the boy mad enough to fight him. and the man was Zimmerman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    have you ever wondered, what Zimmerman said to the boy when he got out of his car. that made the boy so mad he wanted to fight. Zimmerman is the only one that is alive, that heard that conversation. and my guess would be it wasn't very nice. any man that is a man, will break a strangers nose that gets out of a car and gets up in his face for no reason. I don't care from what angle you look at it, if you will be honest in answering who caused this death, I think the answer will be the man that followed the boy, and got out of his car and made the boy mad enough to fight him. and the man was Zimmerman.
    You know way back when I was 17, and in a place I probably shouldn't be, and a MAN were to yell at me...I would have ran regardless of what the MAN said....I'd be thinking I'm out of here...not hey I didn't like what he said I'm goin back and kicking the MANS azz. I guess thats how things have changed since I was a boy. Fished many a farm pond that I wasn't invited to back in the day....I knew when the farmer was headin my way I was gone...not hanging out to confront him with his double barrell. Just tired of all the media attention this is getting, when there were at least 5 black on black shootings in the west end LAST WEEK and thats ok....just because it didn't involve a white latino...SAD

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    Why is Mr Zimmerman "Zimmerman" and Mr. Martin "Trevon" to the folks who want to lynch George Zimmerman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    have you ever wondered, what Zimmerman said to the boy when he got out of his car. that made the boy so mad he wanted to fight. Zimmerman is the only one that is alive, that heard that conversation. and my guess would be it wasn't very nice. any man that is a man, will break a strangers nose that gets out of a car and gets up in his face for no reason. I don't care from what angle you look at it, if you will be honest in answering who caused this death, I think the answer will be the man that followed the boy, and got out of his car and made the boy mad enough to fight him. and the man was Zimmerman.
    He didn't have to say anything..........Martin LOVED to fight, and figured he'd kick this crazy ass cracka's ASS. PURE and SIMPLE.

    He picked a fight with an armed citizen who put hot lead through his chest......

    He's DEAD because he was a hopped up THUG........or wanna be THUG.

    How many times to you have to be told

    Later,

    Geo

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