Hard to Make this stuff up...........

[PL]

Kind of like the crap that Bush got after 8 years of smear campains by the Repubs on Clinton? So where does this BS stop, when we finally become completely divided as a nation. Seriously, Obama isn't even in the white house yet and some of you are already calling him a failure.

Andrew

Andrew.......

You should know where these guys get their crazy ideas from...hows about the drug addict limpball,hannity and the rest of the right wing nut cases that have been wrong time after time...The voters that can actually think for themselves made a **** good choice for the man that will lead this country. He is head and shoulders above the old man and that yapping puppy he beat...Talk radio is for the immature who can't think for themselves
and looks like the mouth pieces on the radio and the fix news network just became less relevant than they were which was none with us thinkers......I'm proud of the voters who didn't listen to all the fear mongering that came from the republicans again. One thing I'm concerned about(very little actually) is all those that have been screwed by the republicans the last 8 years and still found them to be the better choice?...Talk about having no common sense....Jeeeeeeeez
How many times do you have to be screwed before it finally sinks in that this isn't gonna stop anytime soon?

Obama has one heck of a hole to dig this country out of and with the support of those who elected him we'll get the job done. For those that try and stand in the way of progress that this country sorely needs you should be glad I'm not driving the truck cause I would flat run over you and I hope his adminstration does that to anyone(especially repubs) that try to stop progress......The American people have spoken and change they want....

Now, you rebs on this board don't go spinning your wittle heads off and hurt yourselves.

Larry.......I approve this message 100%. GO PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MsgMills]

Andrew.......

You should know where these guys get their crazy ideas from...hows about the drug addict limpball,hannity and the rest of the right wing nut cases that have been wrong time after time...The voters that can actually think for themselves made a **** good choice for the man that will lead this country. He is head and shoulders above the old man and that yapping puppy he beat...Talk radio is for the immature who can't think for themselves
and looks like the mouth pieces on the radio and the fix news network just became less relevant than they were which was none with us thinkers......I'm proud of the voters who didn't listen to all the fear mongering that came from the republicans again. One thing I'm concerned about(very little actually) is all those that have been screwed by the republicans the last 8 years and still found them to be the better choice?...Talk about having no common sense....Jeeeeeeeez
How many times do you have to be screwed before it finally sinks in that this isn't gonna stop anytime soon?

Obama has one heck of a hole to dig this country out of and with the support of those who elected him we'll get the job done. For those that try and stand in the way of progress that this country sorely needs you should be glad I'm not driving the truck cause I would flat run over you and I hope his adminstration does that to anyone(especially repubs) that try to stop progress......The American people have spoken and change they want....

Now, you rebs on this board don't go spinning your wittle heads off and hurt yourselves.

Larry.......I approve this message 100%. GO PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PL, I actually believe you have been brain washed 100 % by the Democrats...

[Dave Stewart]

1. We already have a civilian National Security Force...it's called the FBI, ATF and Fed Marshalls.

2. U.S. military personnel are prohibited from using force against U.S. citizens by Title 18 USC Sec 1385 (posse comitodus). This is why we have state militia's (National Guard) so that a trained military organization is available in the event a state needs this type organization to use force against U.S. citizens. The authority to use National Guard troops in events that call for use of force against U.S. citizens rests with each individual governor. The President does have the power to federalize the National Guard, but once this happens, they cannot be used as a force against U.S. citizens.

Example: My last 14 years on active duty was with the Ky ARNG. My active duty orders were federal, thus whenever there was a riot, looting etc event that called for National Guard troops to provide security etc....I was not allowed to be physically involved in the operations because I was for all purposes on active duty orders with the U.S. Army. I could direct operations (which was one of my jobs) but I could not be physically involved on the scene.

Now, if a civilian National Security Force as mentioned being equipped, trained and armed at the level of the U.S. military were formed...there would be no possible reason for this other than to get around the law that prohibits U.S. federal troops to engage with U. S. citizens.

In my opinion, any force such as this would be a direct threat to the rights of all U.S. citizens to be protected from the Executive Branch (President) being able to apply military rule over them without a change to the U.S. laws that protect us from such an act.

As far as I am concerned...it is of my opinion that we have totally over reacted to the terrorist threat to the point we have already lost some of our freedom in the name of homeland security. There has to be a balance somewhere, where we as a free society will be at some risk if we are to remain a free society. Somewhere along the line, we as a nation, will have to change our views of how we are going to deal with nations that sponsor and harbor terrorists. Our biggest mistake in Iraq was not going there and destroying their country...our mistake was staying there. Leaving the country in shambles would have sent a message to other folks sponsoring and harboring terrorists that you will go down hard if you mess with the U.S. I could care less about the "innocent" civilians there....if they wanted freedom from oppression they had 20 million people that could have risen up as our fore fathers did and pay the price to gain it.

If forming a quasi military CIVILIAN force to strip me and my fellow americans of more of our freedoms is PROGRESS...then it is PROGRESS in the wrong direction for a democracy. And if you or anyone else is driving a truck trying to run over me and my right to LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS (as long as I am not infringing on someone else's right's) in what you call the name of PROGRESS, be prepared to meet your maker...I will take you out in a heartbeat.

[Tim_T]

Well said Dave. The entire civilian security force is concerning to me. The first thing that comes to mind is this will be the people who will be used to confiscate guns. I guess I will be standing there with my evil "black" rifle.

[MrSplitshot]

Son!

WHAT DAVE SAID.

I agree about 157.3%.

[thebassman30]

Right on Dave.

[PL]

PL, I actually believe you have been brain washed 100 % by the Democrats...

I voted for the winning team like free able to think own their own Americans did.......how about you?

Did you dreams come true?

Your answer was very very .....very weak.....something you have in common with many others here.....

Pitifull at best..........

Quit drinking the koolaid and think for yourself......you owe your country that much....

[Tim_T]

I voted for the winning team like free able to think own their own Americans did.......how about you?

Did you dreams come true?

Your answer was very very .....very weak.....something you have in common with many others here.....

Pitifull at best..........

Quit drinking the koolaid and think for yourself......you owe your country that much....

LOL, THINKING and you should not be mentioned in the same sentence. you sound like a campaign sign. The next time you THINK will be the first time!

[GeoFisher]

I voted for the winning team like free able to think own their own Americans did.......how about you?

Did you dreams come true?

Your answer was very very .....very weak.....something you have in common with many others here.....

Pitifull at best..........

Quit drinking the koolaid and think for yourself......you owe your country that much....

I can GUARANTEE you there are a TON of Obama fans who voted for him simply because he's BLACK........

Now, I doubt there are hardly ANY that voted for McCain, because he is WHITE.....

You suppose those are LEGITIMATE, thoughtful votes......I doubt it.

Later,

Geo

[Col Forbin]

I can GUARANTEE you there are a TON of Obama fans who voted for him simply because he's BLACK........

Now, I doubt there are hardly ANY that voted for McCain, because he is WHITE.....

You suppose those are LEGITIMATE, thoughtful votes......I doubt it.

Later,

Geo

I don't buy that for a second. Here in rural Western Ky, racism is not even close to being extinct. I heard it daily leading up to the election - "there is no way I can vote for a ......." so they pulled the lever for McCain. I just bite my tongue and go on. Some people are just ignorant and stuck in the past. So to think racism against blacks is a thing of the past is wrong - ignoring and denying the problem doesn't make it go away. I am sure plenty of whites threw their vote McCains way based on race.

[JD7.62]

I don't buy that for a second. Here in rural Western Ky, racism is not even close to being extinct. I heard it daily leading up to the election - "there is no way I can vote for a ......." so they pulled the lever for McCain. I just bite my tongue and go on. Some people are just ignorant and stuck in the past. So to think racism against blacks is a thing of the past is wrong - ignoring and denying the problem doesn't make it go away. I am sure plenty of whites threw their vote McCains way based on race.

Something like 55% of whites voted for McCain
Something like 96% of blacks voted for Obama...

Racisim?
What if it was the other way around? Racisim?


Also Id like to add, how many times did we hear before th election "XX% of whites said race was/was not a factor in their choice for president..." but we NEVER heard, "XX% of blacks said race was/was not a factor in their choice for president..."???

I wont say that some whites voted for McCain only because Obama is black. I infact know that happened and I think its sick. But my point is, lets not forget that white people are not the only people that view others by the color of their skin. I actually think the stats show that because Mccain only got a little more then half of white votes that for the most part whites do not judge, at least a president, by the color of their skin.

[Col Forbin]

Something like 55% of whites voted for McCain
Something like 96% of blacks voted for Obama...

Racisim?

What if it was the other way around? Racisim?

If an African American ran for president every election and the numbers were the same - yes.

Considering this is the first time in our history that an African American was on the presidential ballot, I am not surprised, or disapointed that he recieved the majority of black votes. I voted for him, and there was a part of me that was proud of the progress out country has made in terms of racial awareness and equality. Whites took over this country and have historically had all of the advantages. Blacks in our country have had to fight for everything. Segregation still legally existed until about 50 years ago. I can't imagine how some African Americans felt that lived through those oppressive times, that for the first time had the opportunity to vote for another African American.

I do think race played some role in this election, however, I don't think it is all negative. I don't think they were voting against McCain becuase he was white.

McCain revieved the majority of votes of people of 65 - did they discriminate based on age? I am sure many of them did because they felt they relate to him better.