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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetwater View Post
    Your link explains it all. Thanks for posting.

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    It's funny how that link is from a company that specializes in selling.......TRAILER TIRES.

    I've read them all, I worked as tire specialist and I know all the special things that has to be added to run them.

    The tires I run have a capacity of 1675# each and there are 4 of them. That's 6700# worth of rating. The boat weighs 4500# give or take a few pounds. That's only 68% of their rating.

    You guys are telling me that I am unsafe yet how many of you stay under the 65 max speed limit of you ST tires?

    It's funny that you can order a 70,000 dollar bass boat from the factory with passenger tires on them. I feel more comfy knowing that I have a tire that is designed to handle what a 4000# high performance car can throw at it than riding around on a tire that is not even designed to run the speed limit on the interstate. Most ST tires are supposed to be replaced every 3-5 years also regardless of the tread left.

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    Air pressure kills most tires, under and over pressure, just cause it looks good dont mean squat use the gauge and check often, a tire that sits still alot lose air and wider trailers that hits holes, rides in the ditch takes alot of abuse. Dual axel trailers work great in a straight line but watch them turn and they get twisted and fouled alot. Duals will also pick up stuff and throw it into second tire

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    Quote Originally Posted by transamz9 View Post
    It's funny how that link is from a company that specializes in selling.......TRAILER TIRES.

    I've read them all, I worked as tire specialist and I know all the special things that has to be added to run them.

    The tires I run have a capacity of 1675# each and there are 4 of them. That's 6700# worth of rating. The boat weighs 4500# give or take a few pounds. That's only 68% of their rating.

    You guys are telling me that I am unsafe yet how many of you stay under the 65 max speed limit of you ST tires?

    It's funny that you can order a 70,000 dollar bass boat from the factory with passenger tires on them. I feel more comfy knowing that I have a tire that is designed to handle what a 4000# high performance car can throw at it than riding around on a tire that is not even designed to run the speed limit on the interstate. Most ST tires are supposed to be replaced every 3-5 years also regardless of the tread left.
    Regardless of how you manipulate the numbers, a st tire has a stiffer sidewall than a p tire does and st sidewalls will make the trailer handle better than the sidewalls of a p tire will allow. That's the point that tyme2fish and myself attempted to make.

    If you want to run "P"assenger tires on your $70000 boat that your business. I choose to run "S"pecial "T"railer tires on my $10000 boat because I feel they are safer on a boat trailer and I will not go cheap when it comes to safety even if I have to buy tires every 3-5 years to remain safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetwater View Post
    Regardless of how you manipulate the numbers, a st tire has a stiffer sidewall than a p tire does and st sidewalls will make the trailer handle better than the sidewalls of a p tire will allow. That's the point that tyme2fish and myself attempted to make.

    If you want to run "P"assenger tires on your $70000 boat that your business. I choose to run "S"pecial "T"railer tires on my $10000 boat because I feel they are safer on a boat trailer and I will not go cheap when it comes to safety even if I have to buy tires every 3-5 years to remain safe.
    First off, I never one time said that my boat was $70,000. Read it again.........

    Second, the sidewalls on the tires I'm running now are stiffer than the ST (BTW, I know what ST stands for you don't have to spell it out) that was on my trailer. If you feel that ST's are safer run them, I could give two shxx's. I came on here and give my opinion to the OP and get jumped on saying that I'm unsafe. I'm not cheapening out because the tires I'm running were more coin than the ST's that were available.

    If you want to be sitting on the side of the road changing your tire, keep running your ST's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transamz9 View Post
    First off, I never one time said that my boat was $70,000. Read it again.........

    Second, the sidewalls on the tires I'm running now are stiffer than the ST (BTW, I know what ST stands for you don't have to spell it out) that was on my trailer. If you feel that ST's are safer run them, I could give two shxx's. I came on here and give my opinion to the OP and get jumped on saying that I'm unsafe. I'm not cheapening out because the tires I'm running were more coin than the ST's that were available.

    If you want to be sitting on the side of the road changing your tire, keep running your ST's.
    I didn't say you were unsafe, read it again. My Dad worked at the Goodyear plant in Gadsden all his life and he sidelined as a boat mechanic/boat outfitter (look at my past post) so what do I know about tires and boats. I didn't say you were cheapening out on tires either, I said I am not doing it, read it again. Peace and love to ya.

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    3400 POUND pontoon on single axle trailer ran for 16 years on Tow-master 10 plies. Never had a blowout. In 16 years I had a total of 3 sets of tires on it, first came with it when bought, replaced first set at 6 years, and last replacement was at 6 years after that, and sold the rig in year 16 of ownership. Hint, air pressure and keep the tires covered when parked to keep them out of the sun.

    Current boat rig on tandem trailer tires, has Carlisles, bought in 2010, so 3 years with no visible tread wear and no blowouts. And yep, whn I have to turn tight in a parking lot the trailer tires darn near fold over on the sidewalls. Then I take then out and run back up to 65-70 mph and there have done just fine. Hint. They say max pressure is 50 pounds, so thats what they get 50 pounds.

    Did you all know that LT (light truck) tires are just as stiff on the sidewall as ST? ... and far stifer than "P". So if you want you "P" to be stiffer, get and "LT" and a good tire pressure job. Check your rims and besure they are true. A diagnostic rim job is worth the expense if you want your "P" to last longer.

    Cheap tires: Tow-Masters are cheap compared to the big names and China made. They ran like iron for me. But you don't have to trust me on that because my Tow-masters got rim jobs before I ever mounted them. I liked my Tow-masters.

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    Good point about the Lt tires Bob. They are constructed virtually the same as an st tire. LT tire tread is designed to provide traction under power and turning performance in all weather conditions. As such, the tread design provides for high friction in side loading to provide grip while turning. It also has an aggressive tread for high friction when used as a drive tire. It also has channels for water to squirt out the sides to keep the drive and steering wheels from hydroplaning. These channels also provide high friction when the tire is twisted in hard turns.

    ST tires have a unique tread design. There are only ribs and channels that follow the rotation of the tire. There are no (or few) side to side grooves and the tread itself is non-aggressive to provide a minimum rolling friction and heat buildup for better tire life and fuel economy.

    Under similar driving conditions, the ST tire will provide better gas mileage and longer tire life then the p or lt tires will. During sharp turns the ST tire will also crab sideways much easier than an LT or P tire will. This reduces uneven wear and scrubbing of the tread.

    Point being, if you travel relatively short distances for your fishing trips an Lt tire should be safe and because of the stiffer sidewalls they should not have adverse affects on the handling of your trailer.

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    We've been schooled, boys. Atta girl Sweetwater.

    I read this post while at the same time still using the tires I bought new when I bought my boat in 2006. Short trips to launch, but still it's time for me to get some new tires even though the ones I run are kept up to pressure and garage kept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyme2fish View Post
    We've been schooled, boys. Atta girl Sweetwater.

    I read this post while at the same time still using the tires I bought new when I bought my boat in 2006. Short trips to launch, but still it's time for me to get some new tires even though the ones I run are kept up to pressure and garage kept.
    Thanks for the compliment man. With my Dad working in the areas he did and me being a Daddy's girl at his heels all the time it's hard not to know a little about tires, boats and fishing.


    Thanks Daddy, I miss you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetwater View Post
    Thanks for the compliment man. With my Dad working in the areas he did and me being a Daddy's girl at his heels all the time it's hard not to know a little about tires, boats and fishing.


    Thanks Daddy, I miss you.
    Girl you are just alright. You win, I teared up with the "daddy" comment. Do me a favor. Say that every night just before you fall asleep. I do. I wake up every morning ready to wrestle wildcats.

    Okay......that's it... no more sensitivitity crap. Got to go "man-up" now. Jose, pass the bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HURRICANEBOB View Post
    Girl you are just alright. You win, I teared up with the "daddy" comment. Do me a favor. Say that every night just before you fall asleep. I do. I wake up every morning ready to wrestle wildcats.

    Okay......that's it... no more sensitivitity crap. Got to go "man-up" now. Jose, pass the bottle.
    Thank you brother, regardless of what everybody may say, I think your alright too.

    I already say it several times everyday and I'm always ready to stand toe to toe with a wildcat too.

    Let's go, I'm all for "wo"maning up with the three J's. Jack, Jim and Jose, with a little southern comfort on the side.

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