is the shutdown helping?

[jcb]

Its gotta be something. He's for illegal immigrants, but he's deported more than Clinton bush put together. He's a closet muslim, but who has ordered more drone strikes, or killed more muslims than he has? He's a communist, but the poverty level is increasing, the middle class is shrinking, and the well off are doing better than ever.

Consider for a minute that your labels are exaggerations (Communist) or just plain wrong (closet Muslim), and the supposed contradictions you point out actually reflect the reality of a complicated world where everything is not black and white.

"For illegal immigrants"? He advocates a typically ultra-liberal immigration policy. "Closet Muslim"? No evidence beyond what the Alex Jones tin-foil hat crowd tries to dredge up. "Communist"? No, he's a liberal, which means he has some socialist tendencies.

[Moveon]

But I think that the GOP was hurt the most. At least that's what I'm hearing and reading in the media this morning.

[kygorski]

Yes he's a liberal. Those labels I mentioned have all been used against him.You have a bunch of guys blaming him for ALL the ills in the couhtry, and others claiming he has done nothing. He's been a lightning rod for kooks all over the country,why? Folks he was liberal when he ran the first time and won, he didn't change stripes and won again. WE may be unwashed, under educated, but we do vote.What I don't understand is IF YOU GUYS ARE SO SMART, WHY DO PICK HORSES ASSES FOR CANDIDATES?

[GeoFisher]

Consider for a minute that your labels are exaggerations (Communist) or just plain wrong (closet Muslim), and the supposed contradictions you point out actually reflect the reality of a complicated world where everything is not black and white.

"For illegal immigrants"? He advocates a typically ultra-liberal immigration policy. "Closet Muslim"? No evidence beyond what the Alex Jones tin-foil hat crowd tries to dredge up. "Communist"? No, he's a liberal, which means he has some socialist tendencies.

His father and step-father was a Muslim......And he was raised as a child in a Muslim Madrassa, which REQUIRED Muslim Faith.

If he never renounced his Muslim Faith and was NEVER baptized as a Christian, then he is a Muslim.

Later,

Geo

[jcb]

His father and step-father was a Muslim......And he was raised as a child in a Muslim Madrassa, which REQUIRED Muslim Faith.

If he never renounced his Muslim Faith and was NEVER baptized as a Christian, then he is a Muslim.

Later,

Geo

Man, that is just incredibly arrogant. Astoundingly so.

The man says he is a Christian. He's said it many times. He was raised primarily by his mother, who was a Christian. Say what you want about him, and I'll agree with a lot of it, but you don't get to define for people what makes them this faith or that faith.

[GeoFisher]

Man, that is just incredibly arrogant. Astoundingly so.

The man says he is a Christian. He's said it many times. He was raised primarily by his mother, who was a Christian. Say what you want about him, and I'll agree with a lot of it, but you don't get to define for people what makes them this faith or that faith.

He went to a Muslim faith based Madrassa in Indonesia......WHAT do you NOT get about that???????

Yea, it may be the single most arrogant thing I've ever said......doubtful though.

BUT, to think that attending a Muslim Madrassa in a country where Muslims are 85% of the population, AND he's not a Muslim. Well, I will leave the name calling to someone else.

Later,

Geo

[Hlleonard]

He went to a Muslim faith based Madrassa in Indonesia......WHAT do you NOT get about that???????

Yea, it may be the single most arrogant thing I've ever said......doubtful though.

BUT, to think that attending a Muslim Madrassa in a country where Muslims are 85% of the population, AND he's not a Muslim. Well, I will leave the name calling to someone else.

Later,

Geo

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I also believe Mr Obama is a muslim, it doesn't seem to me in the time he has been president it has had any effect on the way he has done the job he was elected to do, hopefully that wont change for the rest of his term.

[jcb]

He went to a Muslim faith based Madrassa in Indonesia......WHAT do you NOT get about that???????

Yea, it may be the single most arrogant thing I've ever said......doubtful though.

BUT, to think that attending a Muslim Madrassa in a country where Muslims are 85% of the population, AND he's not a Muslim. Well, I will leave the name calling to someone else.

Later,

Geo

The "madrassa" so-called story has been completely discredited. Even Fox backed off of it.

Not that it really matters, but Obama also went to a public school in Hawaii, a Catholic school, was homeschooled by his Mom, and attended a couple prep schools, as well. Why does going to a madrassa (even though that's false) make him Muslim, but going to Catholic school doesn't make him Catholic?

[GeoFisher]

The "madrassa" so-called story has been completely discredited. Even Fox backed off of it.

Not that it really matters, but Obama also went to a public school in Hawaii, a Catholic school, was homeschooled by his Mom, and attended a couple prep schools, as well. Why does going to a madrassa (even though that's false) make him Muslim, but going to Catholic school doesn't make him Catholic?

It is very interesting that the story has been discredited, yet the school in question was taken over by the Indonesian gubment in 1962..........an GUBMENT that wanted and pushed a pro islamic agenda.

STICK your head in the sand........

And for the record, IF he is a Christian, I'm sure the versions of "Christianity" that Reverend Wright pushes is not your daddy's Christianity.

It is simply amazing that folks fall lock-step into believing the Obama Narrative.

* I believe Obama IS MUSLIM.
* I believe he went to Occidental as a Foreign Student.
* I believe he went to Columbia as a FOREIGN Student......and you tell me how he transferred into Columbia. The rarely take transfers, taking only 1 last year.
* I believe the man leading our country has the most radical views of any president we've ever had. AND I believe he wishes harm on America, and seeks to BREAK her down, and rebuild her in a SOCIAL-Justice model.

[jcb]

In my "head in the sand" "lockstep in believing the Obama narrative" world, Geo, facts shape my opinions and not vice versa.