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    [COLOR=#343434]Obama is a fool and states things that he and his cronies think. If anybody really believes that America is only made up of 30% Christians has to be a complete and total idiot. Heck 20% of our business every year is churches and they darn sure aren't Mosques...[/COLOR]

    [COLOR=#343434]I promised Mr. Hall I would not respond to his post and that is not my intention here... The christian population in this country is in the 80% range... the world population is in the 30% range... If I said anything different then I misspoke... I did not look back to see how I stated that as it doesn't matter now...
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    I apologize to Mr. Mhall for this response...[/COLOR]

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    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie ' Munich ' was based. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard, and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.

    In a lecture in New York City, he shared information that every American needs to know, but that our government has not yet shared with us.

    He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughed, and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. Unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.

    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about 9/11, a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.

    He says we must keep ahead in technology to detect explosives made of plastics. In the future, terrorists will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags before security even gets involved. In Israel, security checks bags before people can even enter the airport.

    He says terrorists will attack with suicide bombers and in places where large groups of people congregate. (i.e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as, rural America. The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including rural areas.

    He says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.

    He says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but that our U. S. Government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the facts. The world is quickly going to become a different place, and issues like 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irrelevant.

    On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concerned about being nuked. The terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach. It's cheap, it's easy, it's effective; and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to meet their destiny.

    He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be, instead, 'homegrown', having attended and been educated in our own schools and universities right here in the U.S. Look for 'students' who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East. These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won't know/understand a thing about them.

    He says as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will inevitably face. America still has only a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and it is critical that we change that fact soon.

    He says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's, Ireland's and England's hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to pay attention to, and trust 'aware' citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens; however, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies'. Our government thinks we 'can't handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. This is a deadly mistake.

    Unfortunately, America hasn't been yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it's their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism.

    He is also concerned about the high number of children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there.

    He stresses the importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within your family, of how to respond in the event of a terrorist emergency. He urges parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools too, develop plans of actions, just as they do in Israel.

    Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by phone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.

    Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan, that in the event of another terrorist attack, everyone's ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., will immediately be cut-off, as this is the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated. How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak to each other? You need to have a plan.

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    scary stuff bonefish

    But is there anything feasible we can do about it? Not really. How many of you guys remember the cuban missal crisis. Basement fall out shelters. Did any of you ever have nike sites near you? That was a scary time, and its not over. Ask any average citizen what would you suggest in the event of such a terrorist attack? Many would say massive and total retaliation, And make it known to the world, If you interfere with our way of life, we END yours. AND MEAN IT. Would there be an out cry, yer dam right, but "world opinion is not protecting us. There was line in Dr Strangelove, "what good is a dooms day if you keep it secret'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    But is there anything feasible we can do about it? Not really. How many of you guys remember the cuban missal crisis. Basement fall out shelters. Did any of you ever have nike sites near you? That was a scary time, and its not over. Ask any average citizen what would you suggest in the event of such a terrorist attack? Many would say massive and total retaliation, And make it known to the world, If you interfere with our way of life, we END yours. AND MEAN IT. Would there be an out cry, yer dam right, but "world opinion is not protecting us. There was line in Dr Strangelove, "what good is a dooms day if you keep it secret'?
    Yes, STEP on their throat and keep the foot there, until they are no longer a threat.

    Is Nazi Germany a threat? do they still exist?
    Is Imperialist Japan a threat? do they still exist?

    Kill these ******** dead.......completely DEAD.

    And while we're at it....send some material support to the Ukrainians. Our punk ass chicken-**** president has zero idea on how to lead. I have came to the conclusion that he IS worse than that chump-ass peanut farmer. AND I also believe he is more of a pacifist than Wilson ever was......

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    Seven people I would love to meet. Three that I would not give the time of day. If you hate this country load up and leave. One thing about it if the crap ever hits the fan. should not be too much problem to sweep the liberals out since they stand for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishin350 View Post
    Seven people I would love to meet. Three that I would not give the time of day. If you hate this country load up and leave. One thing about it if the crap ever hits the fan. should not be too much problem to sweep the liberals out since they stand for nothing.
    I've always said that if the SHTF, that right winger, conservatives will be just fine. Not only that but the liberal elite, will be just fine....and I also think that the bottom feeders of society, the majority of them will also be fine.

    I say this based on the following assumptions:

    * right wingers like myself are armed to the hilt and have absolutely zero problems defending themselves, AND odds are they are right at home in a **** storm.

    * liberal elitists more than likely have "made" it, and can buy themselves out of most issues. Yea, it is going to take a gigantic pile of money and goods, but hey, THEY HAVE IT.

    * a big section of bottom feeders in our society simply know how to get crap done. They will rob , cheat, steal, whatever to survive. It won't be pretty, but they will have no problem killing and TAKING.

    Now......just who will be killed and taken from? Well. That leaves the middle libtards......Yea, they will be targets of opportunity. Simple fact......

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishin350 View Post
    Seven people I would love to meet. Three that I would not give the time of day. If you hate this country load up and leave. One thing about it if the crap ever hits the fan. should not be too much problem to sweep the liberals out since they stand for nothing.
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    Hmmm ...sweep them out?..... You guys have a tough enough time winning an election and you think over half the population will be easy to sweep out?.... It looks to me like you guys are on the light end of the seesaw so if somebody should pack up and leave because they are against the grain...

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    George please join the US Army and help lead the way

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Yes, STEP on their throat and keep the foot there, until they are no longer a threat.

    Is Nazi Germany a threat? do they still exist?
    Is Imperialist Japan a threat? do they still exist?

    Kill these ******** dead.......completely DEAD.

    And while we're at it....send some material support to the Ukrainians. Our punk ass chicken-**** president has zero idea on how to lead. I have came to the conclusion that he IS worse than that chump-ass peanut farmer. AND I also believe he is more of a pacifist than Wilson ever was......
    With all the talk you spew you should be in the Army now fighting the good fight for America.

    Then you would earn the name Magnificent Seven. What does one call someone who is all talk and no action? Hint. Starts with a H.

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    Not sure how you can claim the US is a christian nation. The Constitution, for example, omits all mention of God—let alone of Jesus. The Declaration of Independence mentions the creator, however, it specifically doesn't say that this creator intervenes. Further, most of the people who wrote the Declaration were deists, not theists. For example, check out Thomas Jefferson's version of the New Testament. Jefferson wanted to extract the doctrine of Jesus. To do this he omitted sections of the New Testament that contained anything involving supernatural events. For example: miracles and Jesus’ deity and what he believed to be misinterpretations of the four gospel writers. You will not find reference to Angels, prophecy, miracles, the trinity, and the resurrection of Jesus in Jefferson's bible. All the things that are most definitely christian.


    Many of our founders, (for example: Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Franklin and Thomas Paine) did not believe or accept the most basic of Christian beliefs such as communion, Jesus’ divinity, the resurrection and miracles. Our founders were Deists, Unitarians or Freemasons. While they may have believed in a god, using the title “Christian” or “Judeo-Christian” nation is a huge stretch.


    In short, the founding documents of the US are secular, not Christian. They were influenced equally by the Magna Carter, Hanarabis (sp?) law), bible, and other sources. Had they wanted the US to be a christian nation, surely they would have stated this clearly in the Constitution or its amendments. They did not. Instead they proclaimed a freedom of religion so that people could worship whatever deity or deitys (or none) they chose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apb View Post
    Not sure how you can claim the US is a christian nation. The Constitution, for example, omits all mention of God—let alone of Jesus. The Declaration of Independence mentions the creator, however, it specifically doesn't say that this creator intervenes. Further, most of the people who wrote the Declaration were deists, not theists. For example, check out Thomas Jefferson's version of the New Testament. Jefferson wanted to extract the doctrine of Jesus. To do this he omitted sections of the New Testament that contained anything involving supernatural events. For example: miracles and Jesus’ deity and what he believed to be misinterpretations of the four gospel writers. You will not find reference to Angels, prophecy, miracles, the trinity, and the resurrection of Jesus in Jefferson's bible. All the things that are most definitely christian.


    Many of our founders, (for example: Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Franklin and Thomas Paine) did not believe or accept the most basic of Christian beliefs such as communion, Jesus’ divinity, the resurrection and miracles. Our founders were Deists, Unitarians or Freemasons. While they may have believed in a god, using the title “Christian” or “Judeo-Christian” nation is a huge stretch.


    In short, the founding documents of the US are secular, not Christian. They were influenced equally by the Magna Carter, Hanarabis (sp?) law), bible, and other sources. Had they wanted the US to be a christian nation, surely they would have stated this clearly in the Constitution or its amendments. They did not. Instead they proclaimed a freedom of religion so that people could worship whatever deity or deitys (or none) they chose.
    And just how many times is God and religion mentioned in the Federalist Papers...do you know?? I DO. You mention the Magna Carta, but you file to mention their own words. The Federalist Papers, written by Jay, Hamilton and Madison are clear about how folks at the time felt about our christian country.

    I believe you need to check your facts on who you say were deists.......

    Washington:

    Of all the dispositions and habits, which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men and Citizens. The mere Politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connexions with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect, that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.It is substantially true, that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who, that is a sincere friend to it, can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric -- George Washington

    Yea, he as a deist.

    Payne:

    Thomas Payne became a deist later in life and his later works provide ample proof of that.....BUT he mentioned God and Religion 10 times in "Common Sense" .... Maybe he was Lying.......

    Madison:

    It is hard to find effective information, but he went back and forth, but ultimately is described as either a closet Unitarian or a moderate Christian Deist.

    I could go on, but I'm tired ..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    And just how many times is God and religion mentioned in the Federalist Papers......
    And how many times are the christian god and religion mentioned in the constitution? Again, if the US was set up as a Christian nation, why did the founding fathers not specifically state so in the constitution or amendments? The US was set up as a secular nation where people could worship however they wanted, not as a theocracy.

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