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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I find it very scary that you cannot use google or other search engines and pop up Fauci in his own works in Feb 2020 saying you don't need a mask......

    EVERYONE was saying don't wear masks.

    Now, I absolutely believe masking and distancing helped mitigate a very evil virus........BUT the messaging and the optics, has been freakin HORRIBLE since day one.

    AND they would have been horrible if TRUMP was in office, Biden was in office, Obama was in office, or Bugs Bunny was in office.

    The messaging from the beginning is what caused all the mistrust. AND it will continue to cause mis trust.

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    I never said Fauci didn't downplay the need for masks. I said it's not accurate to say "Wet nasty mask always being pulled up,removed,adjusted,etc. is exactly why falsi was against them before he was for them." All this was in the lunatic discussion context that masks cause the spread of the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I find it very scary that you cannot use google or other search engines and pop up Fauci in his own works in Feb 2020 saying you don't need a mask......

    EVERYONE was saying don't wear masks.

    Now, I absolutely believe masking and distancing helped mitigate a very evil virus........BUT the messaging and the optics, has been freakin HORRIBLE since day one.

    AND they would have been horrible if TRUMP was in office, Biden was in office, Obama was in office, or Bugs Bunny was in office.

    The messaging from the beginning is what caused all the mistrust. AND it will continue to cause mis trust.

    later,

    Geo
    Agree 100%.

    Absolutely NO doubt the messaging has been horrendous (and still is). I'm willing to cut some slack because a lot of this is new ground, but the CDC has basically confirmed every stereotype about incompetent government you can find throughout all this.
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    My mask study results.

    I wear mask.
    I have not been sick.
    I’m alive and so can share that.

    If I got sick and was not alive......I could not report that result.

    Ergo, I mask, so I can write. 😜
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcb View Post
    I never said Fauci didn't downplay the need for masks. I said it's not accurate to say "Wet nasty mask always being pulled up,removed,adjusted,etc. is exactly why falsi was against them before he was for them." All this was in the lunatic discussion context that masks cause the spread of the virus.
    Crawfishin and squirmin like falsi while being humiliated by Sen. Rand Paul (a real Dr.). Squirm and backtrack all you want, if you think a cloth diaper protects you, then best of luck.

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    Dr Fauci puts Ran in his place every time they meet

    Quote Originally Posted by TimE View Post
    Crawfishin and squirmin like falsi while being humiliated by Sen. Rand Paul (a real Dr.). Squirm and backtrack all you want, if you think a cloth diaper protects you, then best of luck.
    Dr Fauci has more experience in public health and Ran should stick to looking at eyeballs.

    Like I said. Say it don't spray it.

    Mask covering the face reduce the amount of spit and the distance the spit travels. So masks do slow down the spread. Which is why this past year the number of flu cases are way down as compared to years when people didn't wear masks.

    TimE what you are saying is that if masks are not 100% effective that we should not wear them? But that's not the case. Masks may not be 100% effective. They may be only 50% effective but that still saves lives. I went with a small number to prove my point.

    If I wanted to be fully protected, I would wear a PAPR type respirator and have a portable shower to wash off in before going back into a clean house. I worked as an Asbestos Project Designer and supervised many different asbestos removal projects where we must wear full faced positive air respirators in the workspace and all workers had to disrobe in a dirty room, take a shower before entering a clean room before leaving the work site.

    I also did respirator fit testing for the workers. Asbestos is one of the Hazardous Air Pollutants that is regulated by USEPA. Asbestos fiber particles can be very tiny. The mask we wore had to be capable of removing particles down to 0.3 um in size. Not all workers need to wear PAPR's. Only those removing the asbestos and inside the work room had to wear those masks and those masks got contaminated on the outside and had to be cleaned before the worker could remove the mask. Which is the purpose of the three chambered entrances where the entire work area is under negative air pressure, so any air leaks go into the work area not out of the work area.

    But here is the bottom line. Wear some type of mask that keeps you from spitting on those around you while indoors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Dr Fauci has more experience in public health and Ran should stick to looking at eyeballs.

    Like I said. Say it don't spray it.

    Mask covering the face reduce the amount of spit and the distance the spit travels. So masks do slow down the spread. Which is why this past year the number of flu cases are way down as compared to years when people didn't wear masks.

    TimE what you are saying is that if masks are not 100% effective that we should not wear them? But that's not the case. Masks may not be 100% effective. They may be only 50% effective but that still saves lives. I went with a small number to prove my point.

    If I wanted to be fully protected, I would wear a PAPR type respirator and have a portable shower to wash off in before going back into a clean house. I worked as an Asbestos Project Designer and supervised many different asbestos removal projects where we must wear full faced positive air respirators in the workspace and all workers had to disrobe in a dirty room, take a shower before entering a clean room before leaving the work site.

    I also did respirator fit testing for the workers. Asbestos is one of the Hazardous Air Pollutants that is regulated by USEPA. Asbestos fiber particles can be very tiny. The mask we wore had to be capable of removing particles down to 0.3 um in size. Not all workers need to wear PAPR's. Only those removing the asbestos and inside the work room had to wear those masks and those masks got contaminated on the outside and had to be cleaned before the worker could remove the mask. Which is the purpose of the three chambered entrances where the entire work area is under negative air pressure, so any air leaks go into the work area not out of the work area.

    But here is the bottom line. Wear some type of mask that keeps you from spitting on those around you while indoors.
    If you do have experience with asbestos then you know very well you have been arguing a flawed argument from the start!

    The thing is not one of us know how the virus is contracted, not one. The question you should be asking is where are the studies, where are the explanations, why is so little known and the “guidance” we all received came from a fraud bureaucrat? Senator Rand Paul (a real Dr) has been embarrassing falsi and exposing his lies daily. I’m thankful that we have someone like Sen. Paul to fight for us or else we would all turn into big pharma droids, living under false “guidance” and outright lies.

    What ever happened to the democrat party? You know the party that fought for the little guy? All the democrat leaders and rest of swamp sold the people out to big business,chamber of commerce,big pharma, china,etc. Whatever happened to ralph nader? He wasn’t a sellout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Dr Fauci has more experience in public health and Ran should stick to looking at eyeballs.

    Like I said. Say it don't spray it.

    Mask covering the face reduce the amount of spit and the distance the spit travels. So masks do slow down the spread. Which is why this past year the number of flu cases are way down as compared to years when people didn't wear masks.

    TimE what you are saying is that if masks are not 100% effective that we should not wear them? But that's not the case. Masks may not be 100% effective. They may be only 50% effective but that still saves lives. I went with a small number to prove my point.

    If I wanted to be fully protected, I would wear a PAPR type respirator and have a portable shower to wash off in before going back into a clean house. I worked as an Asbestos Project Designer and supervised many different asbestos removal projects where we must wear full faced positive air respirators in the workspace and all workers had to disrobe in a dirty room, take a shower before entering a clean room before leaving the work site.

    I also did respirator fit testing for the workers. Asbestos is one of the Hazardous Air Pollutants that is regulated by USEPA. Asbestos fiber particles can be very tiny. The mask we wore had to be capable of removing particles down to 0.3 um in size. Not all workers need to wear PAPR's. Only those removing the asbestos and inside the work room had to wear those masks and those masks got contaminated on the outside and had to be cleaned before the worker could remove the mask. Which is the purpose of the three chambered entrances where the entire work area is under negative air pressure, so any air leaks go into the work area not out of the work area.

    But here is the bottom line. Wear some type of mask that keeps you from spitting on those around you while indoors.
    I rarely respond to you any more, but I will make an exception.

    I agree with your statement about 100 percent effective..........I think that is the biggest problem with the messaging from our gubment, they want you to believe they are 100 percent effective, and if you wear a mask you won't get covid. that ain't the case.

    IF they would have just used a little basic common sense with the messaging and said that even a 25% effective covering in a PACKED room gives you a better chance of not catching it than nothing. THEY should have used real common sense language, so people would not have been so black and white with the whole mask debate.

    The answer is not yes/no , true/false, it is MAYBE. Yes, the answer is MAYBE, if you wear a mask it will keep you from getting this nasty ****. Hell even if they came out and said there is a 50/50 chance it helps you, that would have appeased all the folks that are so anti- mask.

    I don't know........but the answer is not black and white, and our government EFFED that up from the beginning.......

    Just saying.

    Later,

    Geo

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    I rarely respond to you any more, but I will make an exception.

    I agree with your statement about 100 percent effective..........I think that is the biggest problem with the messaging from our gubment, they want you to believe they are 100 percent effective, and if you wear a mask you won't get covid. that ain't the case.

    IF they would have just used a little basic common sense with the messaging and said that even a 25% effective covering in a PACKED room gives you a better chance of not catching it than nothing. THEY should have used real common sense language, so people would not have been so black and white with the whole mask debate.

    The answer is not yes/no , true/false, it is MAYBE. Yes, the answer is MAYBE, if you wear a mask it will keep you from getting this nasty ****. Hell even if they came out and said there is a 50/50 chance it helps you, that would have appeased all the folks that are so anti- mask.

    I don't know........but the answer is not black and white, and our government EFFED that up from the beginning.......

    Just saying.

    Later,

    Geo
    They outright lied about masks and knew they were doing it. Whatever happened to protecting others by wearing a mask? You know, the it’s “patriotic” BS? When Drs and nurses are catching it with proper fitting n95 masks and visors, that’s gonna dilute the cloth and chinese paper surgical masks effectiveness pretty harshly.

    Of course we know now, 6’ social distance was BS! We know now wearing masks outdoors was BS! We know now paper or cloth masks offer very little protection, credit to falsi because he actually said it could prevent someone sneezing one droplet on wearer.

    No matter your politics, everyone knows that this great country has been screwed for over past year by scum politicians on a power trip. I’ll include the swamp rat bureaucrats like falsi that should have been fired years ago over past failures.

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    You are wrong on so many levels

    Quote Originally Posted by TimE View Post
    They outright lied about masks and knew they were doing it. Whatever happened to protecting others by wearing a mask? You know, the it’s “patriotic” BS? When Drs and nurses are catching it with proper fitting n95 masks and visors, that’s gonna dilute the cloth and chinese paper surgical masks effectiveness pretty harshly.

    Of course we know now, 6’ social distance was BS! We know now wearing masks outdoors was BS! We know now paper or cloth masks offer very little protection, credit to falsi because he actually said it could prevent someone sneezing one droplet on wearer.

    No matter your politics, everyone knows that this great country has been screwed for over past year by scum politicians on a power trip. I’ll include the swamp rat bureaucrats like falsi that should have been fired years ago over past failures.
    Masks helped to slow the spread of the virus. Not all nurses got sick from the virus because they were wearing masks. Same with the Doctors. It would have been insane for them to try and treat COVID-19 patients without wearing a mask. And distancing does work so you lie again. What the hell is wrong with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Masks helped to slow the spread of the virus. Not all nurses got sick from the virus because they were wearing masks. Same with the Doctors. It would have been insane for them to try and treat COVID-19 patients without wearing a mask. And distancing does work so you lie again. What the hell is wrong with you?
    Who said all drs and nurses got it? You said they didn’t get it because of masks once, I properly lmao at you and embarrassed pontooner. The issue? They wore fitted n95’s and face shields. You are praising a reusable diaper.

    CDC guidance is 3’ now instead of 6’. Once again you can’t handle FACTS or critical thinking. It was you who said china virus came from europe. I hope you spend time to educate yourself and dig out of indoctrination. That would be a terrible way to live.

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    Actually they didn't all wear N95 masks

    Quote Originally Posted by TimE View Post
    Who said all drs and nurses got it? You said they didn’t get it because of masks once, I properly lmao at you and embarrassed pontooner. The issue? They wore fitted n95’s and face shields. You are praising a reusable diaper.

    CDC guidance is 3’ now instead of 6’. Once again you can’t handle FACTS or critical thinking. It was you who said china virus came from europe. I hope you spend time to educate yourself and dig out of indoctrination. That would be a terrible way to live.
    Not all of them had N95 masks. So now you are saying that N95 masks work? That is what I said all along. And that is why all the nurses didn't die. So mask do work! Now some work better at protecting the wearer than others. I said that all along. What I also said that if you wear a paper mask it limited the distance that the spit can travel when you talk thus protecting others around you as long as they stay separated from you by at least 6 ft. That 3 ft is BS if you are inside and not wearing a mask and not vaccinated. Those that are not vaccinated are going to continue to spread the virus around. Period. If they would wear a mask it would slow that spread down a lot. You are the one that needs to educate yourself. A diaper over the fact would work better than nothing at all. You are too **** stupid and stubborn to understand that. But then again someone so stupid to keep child porn on their computer can't be reasoned with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    Not all of them had N95 masks. So now you are saying that N95 masks work? That is what I said all along. And that is why all the nurses didn't die. So mask do work! Now some work better at protecting the wearer than others. I said that all along. What I also said that if you wear a paper mask it limited the distance that the spit can travel when you talk thus protecting others around you as long as they stay separated from you by at least 6 ft. That 3 ft is BS if you are inside and not wearing a mask and not vaccinated. Those that are not vaccinated are going to continue to spread the virus around. Period. If they would wear a mask it would slow that spread down a lot. You are the one that needs to educate yourself. A diaper over the fact would work better than nothing at all. You are too **** stupid and stubborn to understand that. But then again someone so stupid to keep child porn on their computer can't be reasoned with.
    No one mentioned hunter, so everyone is looking at you. Everyone knows the game liberals play with epstein and the like. I figure you the type who lives in moms basement. I also figure you are the pedophile we all read about on the news. Just like your moveon, acorn, anqueefa, blm brethren. Jigs up kid.

    You are a spineless coward. Anytime,any place.

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