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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    Weather has been extreme. Storms in recent memory do seem worse. And ya know, I do understand how if the earth warms or cools even slightly weather patterns change. I just can’t sort out what “ is” the norm, since this has been going on for millions of years cyclicly.

    As in kid in Pa, I remember odd summers in the 100’s in the 1960’s. And I also recall droughts, or extreme rains, 4 foot snow falls, and some winters where worst we got all year was 6-8 inches.

    This earth I think will perpetually evolve. I think mankind has too also. Say in the next 20 years California gets no rain and Arizona gets 5 times more rain. Farming drops in CA and Moves to AZ. CA is a dessert and AZ becomes a green state. Gain and loss, adapt and overcome.

    So buy as much KY land as possible, cause when we become ocean front it’s gonna be valuable.

    And to be safe buy season tickets to the ark in Williamstown, Kentucky. PS Their website says it’s closed now. Does that mean they are expecting rain?

    I hate these cop out responses that shuck responsibility from the people actually damaging the planet, like this one.

    Its either very hopeless or naive or showing a lack of accountability, all are sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzy View Post
    I hate these cop out responses that shuck responsibility from the people actually damaging the planet, like this one.

    Its either very hopeless or naive or showing a lack of accountability, all are sad.
    Wow, I guess me and my hybrid car are supposed to be offended at this point. You did strip the gas burning motor of your baot and out of your car didn't you? Want ta borrow some wrenches and a lift to do that, or are you just gonna keep yelling and playing eco-victim?

    Estimnate now is air aint the problem , but plastic which may by 2050 be more present in the ocean that fish.
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    If you support “drill baby drill” or think there is a war on coal then that is what I’m talking about.

    plastic is definitely a major problem as well.

    “Eco-victim” is hilarious considering you’ll be dead and gone not having to deal with your generations cavalier attitude towards destroying the earth.

    you guys certainly know how to shed responsibility while saying you’re the last generation who knew how to do things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzy View Post
    If you support “drill baby drill” or think there is a war on coal then that is what I’m talking about.

    plastic is definitely a major problem as well.

    “Eco-victim” is hilarious considering you’ll be dead and gone not having to deal with your generations cavalier attitude towards destroying the earth.

    you guys certainly know how to shed responsibility while saying you’re the last generation who knew how to do things.
    I’ll support any economically sound, well thought out, sustainable, plan that cleans up the environment and provides viable energy that is truly dependable and capable of handling all the surge capacity needed to provide sufficient energy to sustain life under the worst conditions.

    My friend we ain’t there, and current approach is being well demonstrated in France where energy cost have driven the price of life sustaining goods up to the point people have to choose between eating and heating.

    So if you want to go broke, and starve to death while in a cold dark house wearing your AOC t-shirt have at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    I’ll support any economically sound, well thought out, sustainable, plan that cleans up the environment and provides viable energy that is truly dependable and capable of handling all the surge capacity needed to provide sufficient energy to sustain life under the worst conditions.

    My friend we ain’t there, and current approach is being well demonstrated in France where energy cost have driven the price of life sustaining goods up to the point people have to choose between eating and heating.

    So if you want to go broke, and starve to death while in a cold dark house wearing your AOC t-shirt have at it.
    BOOM............

    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    BOOM............

    Well said.

    https://www.facebook.com/elvis/video...8552786243477/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    I’ll support any economically sound, well thought out, sustainable, plan that cleans up the environment and provides viable energy that is truly dependable and capable of handling all the surge capacity needed to provide sufficient energy to sustain life under the worst conditions.

    My friend we ain’t there, and current approach is being well demonstrated in France where energy cost have driven the price of life sustaining goods up to the point people have to choose between eating and heating.

    So if you want to go broke, and starve to death while in a cold dark house wearing your AOC t-shirt have at it.

    Do you know what Frances main energy producer is?

    Here is a hint, it is what most of you will tout as the most effective and efficient

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzy View Post
    Do you know what Frances main energy producer is?

    Here is a hint, it is what most of you will tout as the most effective and efficient
    😊

    Yes I do. And when you read this, you too will find France was doing okay with energy including, Nuclear (about 72%) and renewables at about 21% and fossil fuels (oil and coal ) at about 7%.

    And the go grens kept dropping fossil fuels, didn't create enough renewables, and then TA-DA!... Whamo, A number of nuclear power plants were forcibly shut in 2022 due to stress corrosion cracking on pipework providing primary cooling.

    And now the coal plants are firing back up and they are rushing to get renewable offshore fields built.

    So just like I said, you want to go-green.....fine........just make darn sure your plan to do so is that in fact is capable of sustaining contingencies. In plain words, "DONT THROW THE ENERGY BABY OUT WITH YOUR ACO T-SHIRT WEARING BATH WATER".

    Or to put it in terms you may find more acceptable, "DON'T DO LIKE BIDEN'S ADMINISTRATION: "Ready, shoot, aim" In other words, don't execute, then analyse, and plan". It ought go concept, then analyze, then plan, then execute"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post


    Yes I do. And when you read this, you too will find France was doing okay with energy including, Nuclear (about 72%) and renewables at about 21% and fossil fuels (oil and coal ) at about 7%.

    And the go grens kept dropping fossil fuels, didn't create enough renewables, and then TA-DA!... Whamo, A number of nuclear power plants were forcibly shut in 2022 due to stress corrosion cracking on pipework providing primary cooling.

    And now the coal plants are firing back up and they are rushing to get renewable offshore fields built.

    So just like I said, you want to go-green.....fine........just make darn sure your plan to do so is that in fact is capable of sustaining contingencies. In plain words, "DONT THROW THE ENERGY BABY OUT WITH YOUR ACO T-SHIRT WEARING BATH WATER".

    Or to put it in terms you may find more acceptable, "DON'T DO LIKE BIDEN'S ADMINISTRATION: "Ready, shoot, aim" In other words, don't execute, then analyse, and plan". It ought go concept, then analyze, then plan, then execute"
    So what you're saying is that they should have not gone Nuclear and just used it as an offset to fossil fuels? You dont really make sense. They found a different way to produce energy more efficiently than fossil fuels then got caught with their pants down due to repairs.

    Has nothing to do with go green people, it is just unlucky. Sounds like you think egg prices are up due to inflation and not the fact several million birds died because of an avian flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzy View Post
    So what you're saying is that they should have not gone Nuclear and just used it as an offset to fossil fuels? You dont really make sense. They found a different way to produce energy more efficiently than fossil fuels then got caught with their pants down due to repairs.

    Has nothing to do with go green people, it is just unlucky. Sounds like you think egg prices are up due to inflation and not the fact several million birds died because of an avian flu.
    That’s not at all what I said. Their nuc had a hiccup and they had insufficient fossil available to back that up because the go green ginks had significantly reduced it to the point the renewables could not fill the gap. Responsible go green means making sure you use all resources available to make sure you have emergency capacity. That is what I said. We on track now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    That’s not at all what I said. Their nuc had a hiccup and they had insufficient fossil available to back that up because the go green ginks had significantly reduced it to the point the renewables could not fill the gap. Responsible go green means making sure you use all resources available to make sure you have emergency capacity. That is what I said. We on track now?
    This is a reply to all three of your nonsense replies.

    You said have a plan, then execute it. Why would you keep fossil fuels up when you have Nuclear built to take its place? Do you just love government spending?

    They had a plan to replace fossil fuels with nuclear and that was to get away from being dependent on other countries for that expensive fossil fuels they dont have in the country. Why would you keep an expensive replaced part in service when a better part has been installed?

    You just want to blame the greenies for something they didnt do.

    The country built green energy to supplement the nuclear that was their new main source.

    You argument is a foolish one mainly because it is made up and fits your agenda.

    You have the same logic and a democrat, see a scenario then make up a headline that fits your ideals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzy View Post
    This is a reply to all three of your nonsense replies.

    You said have a plan, then execute it. Why would you keep fossil fuels up when you have Nuclear built to take its place? Do you just love government spending?

    They had a plan to replace fossil fuels with nuclear and that was to get away from being dependent on other countries for that expensive fossil fuels they dont have in the country. Why would you keep an expensive replaced part in service when a better part has been installed?

    You just want to blame the greenies for something they didnt do.

    The country built green energy to supplement the nuclear that was their new main source.

    You argument is a foolish one mainly because it is made up and fits your agenda.

    You have the same logic and a democrat, see a scenario then make up a headline that fits your ideals.
    Yes they had a plan and their timeline exceed capacity in the event if even a minor hiccup. Why? Because the hit it such a hurry to “ save the world” they dismissed being capable of saving themselves.

    I’m a republican. And I use facts to form opinions. In this case I think you are projecting your faulty thought process in defense of your own unfounded idiocy. Just like a democrat to blame others for that you hate most in yourself.
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