Life or death?

[QUOTE=know1;545601]I completely disagree.[/QUOTE]

According to a recent Gallup poll 46% of democrats, 22% of republicans and 37% of Americans as a whole agree with you.


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[QUOTE=sweetwater;545603]According to a recent Gallup poll 46% of democrats, 22% of republicans and 37% of Americans as a whole agree with you.


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I wish it were more. Nothing good comes from murdering someone (or wishing for that person to be murdered).

[QUOTE=know1;545546]I don't see any reason for there to be one more death associated with this tragedy. Lock him away and throw away the key is good enough.[/QUOTE]

We do not need to pay for him to be in jail for 50 years give him 47 days in the electric chair.

[QUOTE=roadrunner;545702]We do not need to pay for him to be in jail for 50 years give him 47 days in the electric chair.[/QUOTE]

at low voltage,keep em twitching for a long time, then hang em, in the chair[like the horse in blazing saddles]

[QUOTE=roadrunner;545702]We do not need to pay for him to be in jail for 50 years give him 47 days in the electric chair.[/QUOTE]

That's not even a valid argument. If it were, it should be asked why we pay for ANYONE who's in jail for that matter.

Besides, we pay for an absolute TON of things that are more worthless to me than incarcerating a murderer.

[QUOTE=roadrunner;545702]We do not need to pay for him to be in jail for 50 years give him 47 days in the electric chair.[/QUOTE]
That would make for a large electric bill for us to pay but at least that would be offset by no burial expenses because the only thing left would be a burnt cheeto.

[QUOTE=know1;545710]That's not even a valid argument. If it were, it should be asked why we pay for ANYONE who's in jail for that matter.

Besides, we pay for an absolute TON of things that are more worthless to me than incarcerating a murderer.[/QUOTE]

Statistics show that in foreign countries where penalty of death is imposed for heinous crimes that those crimes diminish greatly over time. In fact some are almost non existent because of the fear of the death penalty. The Bible eludes to in many passages to cast away those that do such acts.

Convict them beyond a shadow of a doubt and kill them all God will sort out the rest. I can't help but wonder if you would feel this way if one of these horrible things hit home....

[QUOTE=mhall;545747]Statistics show that in foreign countries where penalty of death is imposed for heinous crimes that those crimes diminish greatly over time. In fact some are almost non existent because of the fear of the death penalty. The Bible eludes to in many passages to cast away those that do such acts.

Convict them beyond a shadow of a doubt and kill them all God will sort out the rest. I can't help but wonder if you would feel this way if one of these horrible things hit home....[/QUOTE]

I would hope I wouldn't stoop to their level if it happened to me. I don't believe in revenge murder.

[QUOTE=know1;545748]I would hope I wouldn't stoop to their level if it happened to me. I don't believe in revenge murder.[/QUOTE]

You keep using those two words....revenge murder....I and many don't believe either of those words apply to this scenario. It is a penalty being carried out that is justified by its offense.

[QUOTE=know1;545748]I would hope I wouldn't stoop to their level if it happened to me. I don't believe in revenge murder.[/QUOTE]

You keep saying revenge murder...that is deliberately inflammatory. Our penal system allows for the death penalty. It is part of our JUSTICE system.......it is not murder, it is justice.

Don't like it, change the law.

Later,

Geo

[QUOTE=mhall;545751]You keep using those two words....revenge murder....I and many don't believe either of those words apply to this scenario. It is a penalty being carried out that is justified by its offense.[/QUOTE]

People often confuse retribution with revenge. Revenge justice signifies inflicting harm on the offender out of anger because of what he has done. Retributive justice is not based on hatred for the criminal therefore the term "revenge murder" would not apply to capital punishment. Our country's justice system is based on retributive justice which demands that the criminal deserves to be punished and deserves to be punished in proportion to the gravity of his or her crime, whether or not the victim or anyone else desires it. We may all deeply regret having to carry out the punishment, but consider it warranted. When a society fails to punish criminals in a way that is thought to be proportionate to the gravity of their crimes the danger arises that the public would take the law into its own hands resulting in vigilante justice, lynch mobs, and private acts of revenge including revenge murders. The outcome is likely to be an anarchistic and insecure state of injustice.

Every time there's any kind of high profile crime, people flood message boards like this one and post about all the cruel and unusual ways the criminal deserves to die, so at the very MINIMUM, the death penalty is revenge for at least some people. It's pretty hard to deny that.

But, I don't think it serves any other purpose than revenge even if it's done in a cold, calculated, humane (if that's really possible) way.