float n fly

[QUOTE=kygorski;392547]I agree the slip bobber is a good tool, and has many good applications, BUT the statioary float seems to work better with the FNF.That said, there are many variations of the float, but the biggest hang up is sometimes you have tangles with light jigs in deep water.A couple of years ago I tried using two jigs, And sure enough, two bass grabbed them, thank god they were smaller fish.I still use two at a time, but mostly for crappie. 2 1/16 oz jigs with small tubes could work, because the weight would pull through the slip float. But for me its the 3 way and float.[/QUOTE]

I used to get the "tangle" of my leader and main line around my 3way swivel and bobber as well. It will cause nicks and stuff in your leader and you will have weak spots that could cause you to lose fish during the fight because of the line breaking at that area. I say I "used" to because I figured out what I was doing wrong and have not had this happen in a LONG time but when it does it is my fault. When I get quick in my backswing on my cast is when this happens especially using a leader of 13 feet plus. If you will take that couple of seconds to make sure you have good tension all the way down to the jig BEFORE you start your backswing on your cast it will cut down on this problem. By doing this the jig will go backwards with tension and hit the water then you make your forward motion on your cast. If you don't wait until you have full tension on your jig before starting then you will have extra line just sitting there to get caught up in the 3 way and bobber. I actually don't stop my rod action now days when casting. What I mean is that I will reel in the cast and keep tension on it all the way in, then the second my bobber is at the right position will go ahead and cast. this will save time and will get you more cast during the day. When I do stop or pause after getting in the cast then I will make sure the jig has fully suspended below the bobber before starting the cast to make sure I have the full tension. this full tension also helps the jig from getting wrapped around the 3 way when it is flying thru the air. When you make cast, you want the jig and bobber to hit the water leader length apart. What I mean is, if you have a 10 foot leader, with proper tension start to finish on the cast, the jig will land 10 feet to the left of the bobber most of the time if you cast with your right hand. My cast are 3/4 sidearm from the front of the boat which helps as well to make this happen. When you come exactly straight overhead during the cast it is even more important to keep the tension because a lot of these cast the jig and bobber will hit the water right on top of each other, which gives it more opportunity to get tangled up around each other. Hope this helps and was explained properly

I have learned through a couple of catastrophes that keeping the rod at a little side angle like elwood says shortens the time between cast.....sometimes as much as 15 minutes or so..that's about how long it takes me to retie the whole rig after I cut the line off at the end of the rod.

[QUOTE=Hlleonard;392553]I have learned through a couple of catastrophes that keeping the rod at a little side angle like elwood says shortens the time between cast.....sometimes as much as 15 minutes or so..that's about how long it takes me to retie the whole rig after I cut the line off at the end of the rod.[/QUOTE]

Just make sure you fish with a Lefty in the back of the boat with that sidearm cast or the guy up front is eating braid/3 ways/bobbers/leader/jigs/fish dope all day long or at least until he gets smacked the second time and then the fella in the back takes a swim

[QUOTE=elnutsmalljaws;392556]Just make sure you fish with a Lefty in the back of the boat with that sidearm cast or the guy up front is eating braid/3 ways/bobbers/leader/jigs/fish dope all day long or at least until he gets smacked the second time and then the fella in the back takes a swim[/QUOTE]

Does the pack come with all you need or did you have to put it together yourself? I have a rod (BPS) but would like to know what all to get. I've been seing special bobbers, fish dope, jigs and 3 way swivels would there be something I'm forgeting? I want to go between Christmas and New Years. Does anyone know if the lodge is open and is that part of the lake a good place to fish?

[QUOTE=canepole;392572]Does the pack come with all you need or did you have to put it together yourself? I have a rod (BPS) but would like to know what all to get. I've been seing special bobbers, fish dope, jigs and 3 way swivels would there be something I'm forgeting? I want to go between Christmas and New Years. Does anyone know if the lodge is open and is that part of the lake a good place to fish?[/QUOTE]

There is a FNf kit that you can purchase from Punisherlures.com or BPS if you like. What you need besides Rod and Reel is

8lb Fireline - main line
#4 3 way swivels
6lb Flourocarbon leader
Garlic Fish Dope
Various 1/16oz jigs
FNF Bob's Bobbers

I usually use a 1/8 ounce jig helps slide through easier and keeps it stationary and if any wind present i let it drift with the wind to my advantage. mostly use duck feathers and craft hair but u have find the right combination.