Church and State

[QUOTE=RICHYD4U;476236]I think it was the "friction" that lead to the "wet dream", lmao! :D

-Rich[/QUOTE]

Can't touch that.......... do do do do do dump do do....can't touch that!

[QUOTE=RoadToad;476223]OK, if you say so, but JESUS never asked for 10%, which is what you said previously, and is what was being disputed. I'm pretty sure KYdonkey was right, all Jesus had to say on the matter was the bit about "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's."[/QUOTE]

Roadtoad, you're right, Jesus never spoke to tithing directly, but he did say "I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it", and spoke several other times about not disregarding the law.

But to me, tithing is one of those open-handed, non-essential parts of doctrine Christians can agree to disagree on.

[QUOTE=FlyLie;476213]And who wrote this so called BIBLE? Is it History or Friction or a wet dream? :confused:[/QUOTE]

Sometimes, the way a question is asked gives you a good clue you shouldn't get involved trying to answer it.

[QUOTE=RICHYD4U;476236]I think it was the "friction" that lead to the "wet dream", lmao! :D

-Rich[/QUOTE]

May take a while to live that one down....:D:p:p:D

[QUOTE=Chubminnow;476179]Guess I'm pretty much fed up with going in Walmart or Kroger or where ever and have what seems like nearly half of the other customers there speak some language that I don't know.[/QUOTE]


Maybe you should take some forigen language courses and then you wouldn't feel left out, shoot you might even hear what DVD player they prefer, what they are having for supper...... or better yet hear some evil plot they have to take over your local Kroger or Walmart so you could notify your local police.

[QUOTE=pontooner;476419]Maybe you should take some forigen language courses and then you wouldn't feel left out, shoot you might even hear what DVD player they prefer, what they are having for supper...... or better yet hear some evil plot they have to take over your local Kroger or Walmart so you could notify your local police.[/QUOTE]

No, maybe we should make ENGLISH our national language, and require folks doing business to DO IT in our national language.

I like that idea much better.

Later,

Geo

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[QUOTE=GeoFisher;476425]No, maybe we should make ENGLISH our national language, and require folks doing business to DO IT in our national language.

I like that idea much better.

Later,

Geo[/QUOTE]

Do we know that they couldn't speak English? Which leads to why would anyone care if someone was talking to their family, friends....... in Walmart or Kroger in what ever language they wanted to?


And what do you do if we make english our national language and you hear someone speaking something else?

[QUOTE=GeoFisher;476425]No, maybe we should make ENGLISH our national language, and require folks doing business to DO IT in our national language.

I like that idea much better.

Later,

Geo[/QUOTE]
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Must be something in the water tonight, I'm finding myself agreeing with Mr Fisher on a couple of points which doesn't seem normal.

[QUOTE=pontooner;476450]Do we know that they couldn't speak English? Which leads to why would anyone care if someone was talking to their family, friends....... in Walmart or Kroger in what ever language they wanted to?[/QUOTE]
Exactly! Now, if you go to the checkout, and cashier doesn't speak English, then you have something to complain about.

[QUOTE=pontooner;476450]Do we know that they couldn't speak English? Which leads to why would anyone care if someone was talking to their family, friends....... in Walmart or Kroger in what ever language they wanted to?


And what do you do if we make english our national language and you hear someone speaking something else?[/QUOTE]

I don't know.....don't CARE.

My response was specifically targeted at folks trying to converse WHILE doing business. Just this weekend, I ran into a Mexican woman at McDonalds. She worked there......could NOT speak a lick of English and was getting pissed at me because I could not understand her jibberish or her hand gestures. She was doing something with the ice machine and made it clear with her raised voice that I was doing "something" she didn't approve of.

BOTTOM LINE........If you're going to do business you should KNOW the LANGUAGE. While this is a reverse instance of what we're talking about it pretty much is the same thing.

I will probably NOT be doing business there again, even though it is less than 1 mile from my house and the easiest fast food located in my area.

Later,,

Geo

See now THERE you have a good point! Anyone who is going to interact with the public on their job needs to be able to speak English. That's just good business sense, isn't it? You're probably not the only customer she's run off. I'd do the same thing. If they're going to have someone like that working for them, they're going to lose business. It's already perfectly legal for them to make it a job requirement that you be able to speak English, so why the "national language" nonsense?

It's interesting is how those on the right rail about how liberals want "a law for every problem," until they find a good rallying cry, then it's time for a law! Or better yet, a Constitutional Amendment!! Just think, Geo, how much bureaucracy and red tape this "national language" law would create. Not to mention the fact that what you're suggesting is one more REGULATION that businesses have to follow! That hardly sounds like conservative thinking to me!