Transparency

[Devils Horse]

Its obvious now to me that you people have no Idea whats going on. It dont make a hill of beans whats voted on because the Senate is working out the details in commitee to form a bill. Geez dont any of you watch C-Span? I been watching them all week until 9pm, they are doing nothing right now so dont check it out tonight.

As usual you miss the whole point. Do you deny your party defeated a measure to post bills online for 72 hours and get a Congressional Budget Office report on it's cost before voting on it? Well do you? You call that the transparency our President promised? Do you?

Your attitude is typical of the left. Coming on here tossing out 'you people don't know jack' drivel. I know your party passed a 900 billion dollar spending bill without giving anyone time to read it. I know I sure as hell don't want that to happen again. I also know the lawyers will take the healthcare conceptual language you're seeing on C-Span and turn it into a couple of thousand pages of incomprehensible jargon. Your party will then deny anyone a chance to try and sort through it before trying to ram it through. This won't happen you say? Wanna bet?

Maybe it's not 'us people' who don't know what's going on. Take look in the mirror...and drop the holier than thou style, it's not working.

Watching C-Span doesn't make anyone an expert if they're too deep in denial to interpret what they're seeing. Besides, watching a bunch of bought and paid for windbags go through the ponderous motions of getting something done ain't my idea of entertainment anyway. Most political decisions are made well out of sight of C-Span's cameras.

[DJD]

As usual you miss the whole point. Do you deny your party defeated a measure to post bills online for 72 hours and get a Congressional Budget Office report on it's cost before voting on it? Well do you? You call that the transparency our President promised? Do you?

Your attitude is typical of the left. Coming on here tossing out 'you people don't know jack' drivel. I know your party passed a 900 billion dollar spending bill without giving anyone time to read it. I know I sure as hell don't want that to happen again. I also know the lawyers will take the healthcare conceptual language you're seeing on C-Span and turn it into a couple of thousand pages of incomprehensible jargon. Your party will then deny anyone a chance to try and sort through it before trying to ram it through. This won't happen you say? Wanna bet?

Maybe it's not 'us people' who don't know what's going on. Take look in the mirror...and drop the holier than thou style, it's not working.

Watching C-Span doesn't make anyone an expert if they're too deep in denial to interpret what they're seeing. Besides, watching a bunch of bought and paid for windbags go through the ponderous motions of getting something done ain't my idea of entertainment anyway. Most political decisions are made well out of sight of C-Span's cameras.

Exactlty to the point, well said and I would love to see Mr. cork reply to your questions.
I remember how he stood up on stage and acted like he was so proud and smart about this transparency issue. I knew he was telling a lie then and my thanks to him for proving me right.

[slippedcork]

As usual you miss the whole point. Do you deny your party defeated a measure to post bills online for 72 hours and get a Congressional Budget Office report on it's cost before voting on it? Well do you? You call that the transparency our President promised? Do you?

Your attitude is typical of the left. Coming on here tossing out 'you people don't know jack' drivel. I know your party passed a 900 billion dollar spending bill without giving anyone time to read it. I know I sure as hell don't want that to happen again. I also know the lawyers will take the healthcare conceptual language you're seeing on C-Span and turn it into a couple of thousand pages of incomprehensible jargon. Your party will then deny anyone a chance to try and sort through it before trying to ram it through. This won't happen you say? Wanna bet?

Maybe it's not 'us people' who don't know what's going on. Take look in the mirror...and drop the holier than thou style, it's not working.

Watching C-Span doesn't make anyone an expert if they're too deep in denial to interpret what they're seeing. Besides, watching a bunch of bought and paid for windbags go through the ponderous motions of getting something done ain't my idea of entertainment anyway. Most political decisions are made well out of sight of C-Span's cameras.

Transparency, where have you been since August? Thats when the bill was put out for everyone to read and scrutinize. You are technically right about the latest vote about the 72hr rule but thats just a republican gimic. Why do I say that, the bill is in commitee now and every change is made public and there will be debate for a final vote so the republicans as usual have got you guys riled up again. I am not holier than thou, just very informed.

[RoadToad]

Devil's Horse, do you happen to have a link to news report on this? I'm not questioning whether it's true, I just would like to read what reasons (if any) the Democrats gave for voting against it, because this just doesn't make sense to me.

[kyfanatic]

Devil's Horse, do you happen to have a link to news report on this? I'm not questioning whether it's true, I just would like to read what reasons (if any) the Democrats gave for voting against it, because this just doesn't make sense to me.

http://www.foxnews.com/search-result...ke-for-all.htm

http://www.theminorityreportblog.com...ad_legislation


http://politics.newsvine.com/_news/2...obama-movement

http://republicanleader.house.gov/blog/?cat=53

[DJD]

Transparency, where have you been since August? Thats when the bill was put out for everyone to read and scrutinize. You are technically right about the latest vote about the 72hr rule but thats just a republican gimic. Why do I say that, the bill is in commitee now and every change is made public and there will be debate for a final vote so the republicans as usual have got you guys riled up again. I am not holier than thou, just very informed.

You actually made me laugh out loud with this post ha ha ha.....

[kyfanatic]

What's the old saying : Give a dog enough rope and he'll hang himself.I think the Democrats are doing just that by forcing through these garbage money/blood sucking bills through when a majority of the population disappproves.They still are covering Illegal Aliens,still raising every tax they can on us,and are burying us in debt so far that the sun won't shine for along time.The good news is they are sealing their own fate,the bad news is they are hanging all of us with them and their Communism.

[slippedcork]

What's the old saying : Give a dog enough rope and he'll hang himself.I think the Democrats are doing just that by forcing through these garbage money/blood sucking bills through when a majority of the population disappproves.They still are covering Illegal Aliens,still raising every tax they can on us,and are burying us in debt so far that the sun won't shine for along time.The good news is they are sealing their own fate,the bad news is they are hanging all of us with them and their Communism.

Illegal aliens are covered now, called an Emergency Room plan. Whos blame for that and why havent the republicans stopped it and kicked them out of the country. After all they had 6 yrs for the previous admin to geterdone.

[kyfanatic]

Illegal aliens are covered now, called an Emergency Room plan. Whos blame for that and why havent the republicans stopped it and kicked them out of the country. After all they had 6 yrs for the previous admin to geterdone.

It's been going on longer than 6 years,the rate of Illegal Immigration skyrocketed under Clinton.Even at that it's been ignored for years,Bush couldn't do anything because of the Democratic controlled House and Senate.
Don't take my word for it,look up who cried the loudest everytime they tried to do something about it.

[slippedcork]

It's been going on longer than 6 years,the rate of Illegal Immigration skyrocketed under Clinton.Even at that it's been ignored for years,Bush couldn't do anything because of the Democratic controlled House and Senate.
Don't take my word for it,look up who cried the loudest everytime they tried to do something about it.

I did check the facts. Bush had the house for 6yrs and the senate for 4yrs.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...ol_of_congress

[bassiusmaximus]

Illegal aliens are covered now, called an Emergency Room plan. Whos blame for that and why havent the republicans stopped it and kicked them out of the country. After all they had 6 yrs for the previous admin to geterdone.

There is no bipartisan effort on dealing with the issue. Obviously it's because they don't want to offend the hispanic vote. So they are risking our country's security and costing all of us a buttload of money by leaving the borders open. I say vote any politician who doesn't aggresively deal with the problem out of office. As for the illegal aliens, I say kick them out and secure the borders. What's your stance on this issue slipped?

[slippedcork]

There is no bipartisan effort on dealing with the issue. Obviously it's because they don't want to offend the hispanic vote. So they are risking our country's security and costing all of us a buttload of money by leaving the borders open. I say vote any politician who doesn't aggresively deal with the problem out of office. As for the illegal aliens, I say kick them out and secure the borders. What's your stance on this issue slipped?

Bass, im ankle deep in a cold beer right now. I will respond tomorrow if time permits, going to london ky tomorrow for my sons baseball tournament, maybe it will be rained out. I dont like to get serious without a clear mind. Some of the guys will clobber me if I dont give a propper answer.