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    Downrigger Fishing

    I'm fixing to try some downrigger fishing. I bought 2 downriggers off ebay and I'm looking forward to learning to use them. I've never fished this way in my life. anyone have a crash course on how to use a downrigger, any tips would be greatly appreciated.

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    Its a lot of work

    About the best thing I can tell you, is if you don't have fishing partner get one.Its almost impossible to do it alone. If you got to go solo, get an auto pilot trolling motor, it keeps you moving, and you have both hands free[you'll need em]. Practise in deep snag free water, if you ever hand a canon ball, you wont ever want to do it again. Are they electric or manual? The best ods are level wind reels with a clicker,There are hundreds of things to master,but you'll get the hang of it, avoid using crank baits at first till you can pick those that track true.Get easy to use releases, ones where you can adjust trnsions.More info to follow later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    About the best thing I can tell you, is if you don't have fishing partner get one.Its almost impossible to do it alone. If you got to go solo, get an auto pilot trolling motor, it keeps you moving, and you have both hands free[you'll need em]. Practise in deep snag free water, if you ever hand a canon ball, you wont ever want to do it again. Are they electric or manual? The best ods are level wind reels with a clicker,There are hundreds of things to master,but you'll get the hang of it, avoid using crank baits at first till you can pick those that track true.Get easy to use releases, ones where you can adjust trnsions.More info to follow later.
    thanks man, for the info. I have some releases ordered. and they are adjusting kind. have 2 8lb balls, and do fish alone most of the time. I have one of the best friends any man could ask for, but his health won't let him fish much any more. and I have been looking for a used minn kota I-pilot. I thank you for the info. I understand how the downrigger works, but I have never fished with one before. been reading what I can find about it on Google. I have a Lowrance hds-7 with structure scan and see a lot of fish in the deeper water, and thought if I had a downrigger I could maybe catch some of them.

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    more stuff

    Do you have a motor that can easily troll at 2mph? Also when you start getting down past 20 ft line visibility isn't that much of a problem anymore.We used to primarily troll lake michigan, and most times used a smaller kicker motor. Where are you planning on fishing? I fished cumberland and dale.

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    Wrote this up a while back for someone else. Based on downrigging for stripers and hybrids.

    Here are a few basics to help you get started. I mostly use bucktail jigs (doll flies) with curly tail trailers, however, plugs and live bait also work. Usually troll between 1.8 and 3 mph, but know of others who troll up to 4 mph. Pick the area that you want to start trolling and drop the boat speed to the speed you wish to troll. Let out line from the reel (40-100 feet depending on depth and water clarity), with the reel out of gear and the clicker on, place the rod in the rod holder and attach the line to the release. If you are also using a stacker (allows more than one rod per rigger), drop the downrigger ball 10 feet and set up the second rod. Using more than two rods per rigger is probably not wise. Drop the ball to the depth that you want to troll. After the ball is down, put the reel in gear and take up all slack line. Your rod should be doubled over (like you are fighting a fish) when enough line is taken up. If there is too much slack in the line, the release will not trigger correctly. Keep in mind that when you are using stackers, the deeper rod should be on the outside (i.e., furthest from the boat) and the shallow rod on the inside (i.e., closest to the boat). If a fish hits the shallow line, you will have to bring it over the deep line at some point. If the deep rod is on the outside, this is much easier. Done the other way will result in more tangled lines.

    A couple of factors that you want to keep in mind; as you increase the boat speed or length of cable out, the ball will rise some so that the depth shown on the downrigger depth meter is not the actual depth of your lure. Also, depending on what lure you are using and the length of line out, your lure will also sink a few feet. Treat the depth of the ball as water surface for calculating the actual depth. If you are using plugs, use shallow runners as it is easier to determine depth. I use a depth o troll meter to aid in determining the actual depth that the lure is out (has two graphs one to determine actual depth of ball and the other to determine depth of lure).

    Most of the time with stripers and hybrids, they hit hard enough to trigger the release. Short fish will not always do this. In these cases, you may notice your downrigger cable swinging somewhat or dragging further back. The rod may also bounce somewhat. In these cases, you will have to reel up the downrigger to check the line and release the trigger yourself. If the fish releases the trigger, the rod will fly up and you will usually hear it. Grab the rod and take up the slack line as quickly as possible. The deeper you fish, the more slack line and the greater the chance of losing the fish. You do not need to set the hook. If you feel the need to set the hook, wait until you feel the full weight of the fish first. If the fish does not trigger the release, reel up the downrigger while keeping tension on the rod (may take two people) and trigger the release yourself.

    Couple other hints. You should always be moving while using the downriggers. When fighting a larger fish, you may need to decrease boat speed, but do not stop. Hanging up a downrigger on the bottom or snagging several lines can take the fun out of things. Also, most downriggers have some type of clutch or brake. Never tighten this the whole way. If you do hang up the ball, you want the cable to give some rather than causing damage to the boat or rigger. After running the downriggers a couple of times, you’ll get the hang of it. You should also try avoiding tight turns, especially if you have a lot of line out. If you turn too tight, lines will cross and things will get ugly. Make wide turns. You should also try to troll in a sort of zigzag pattern. More like a S-shaped pattern. This will cause the jigs to speed up and slow down, makes them not trail right behind the boat, and also allows you to cover a little more water.

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    Also note, you'll want to use your regular motor (or kicker) not your trolling motor for this.

    Andrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    Do you have a motor that can easily troll at 2mph? Also when you start getting down past 20 ft line visibility isn't that much of a problem anymore.We used to primarily troll lake michigan, and most times used a smaller kicker motor. Where are you planning on fishing? I fished cumberland and dale.
    no, I don't have a small kicker motor. only a 5 speed trolling motor. if I can find a good used minn kota i-pilot I will buy it. the new ones are high dollar. but I keep checking ebay for a used one. I to fish Dale and Cumberland, Laurel, Norris, Cherokee, and Douglas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apb View Post
    Wrote this up a while back for someone else. Based on downrigging for stripers and hybrids.

    Here are a few basics to help you get started. I mostly use bucktail jigs (doll flies) with curly tail trailers, however, plugs and live bait also work. Usually troll between 1.8 and 3 mph, but know of others who troll up to 4 mph. Pick the area that you want to start trolling and drop the boat speed to the speed you wish to troll. Let out line from the reel (40-100 feet depending on depth and water clarity), with the reel out of gear and the clicker on, place the rod in the rod holder and attach the line to the release. If you are also using a stacker (allows more than one rod per rigger), drop the downrigger ball 10 feet and set up the second rod. Using more than two rods per rigger is probably not wise. Drop the ball to the depth that you want to troll. After the ball is down, put the reel in gear and take up all slack line. Your rod should be doubled over (like you are fighting a fish) when enough line is taken up. If there is too much slack in the line, the release will not trigger correctly. Keep in mind that when you are using stackers, the deeper rod should be on the outside (i.e., furthest from the boat) and the shallow rod on the inside (i.e., closest to the boat). If a fish hits the shallow line, you will have to bring it over the deep line at some point. If the deep rod is on the outside, this is much easier. Done the other way will result in more tangled lines.

    A couple of factors that you want to keep in mind; as you increase the boat speed or length of cable out, the ball will rise some so that the depth shown on the downrigger depth meter is not the actual depth of your lure. Also, depending on what lure you are using and the length of line out, your lure will also sink a few feet. Treat the depth of the ball as water surface for calculating the actual depth. If you are using plugs, use shallow runners as it is easier to determine depth. I use a depth o troll meter to aid in determining the actual depth that the lure is out (has two graphs one to determine actual depth of ball and the other to determine depth of lure).

    Most of the time with stripers and hybrids, they hit hard enough to trigger the release. Short fish will not always do this. In these cases, you may notice your downrigger cable swinging somewhat or dragging further back. The rod may also bounce somewhat. In these cases, you will have to reel up the downrigger to check the line and release the trigger yourself. If the fish releases the trigger, the rod will fly up and you will usually hear it. Grab the rod and take up the slack line as quickly as possible. The deeper you fish, the more slack line and the greater the chance of losing the fish. You do not need to set the hook. If you feel the need to set the hook, wait until you feel the full weight of the fish first. If the fish does not trigger the release, reel up the downrigger while keeping tension on the rod (may take two people) and trigger the release yourself.

    Couple other hints. You should always be moving while using the downriggers. When fighting a larger fish, you may need to decrease boat speed, but do not stop. Hanging up a downrigger on the bottom or snagging several lines can take the fun out of things. Also, most downriggers have some type of clutch or brake. Never tighten this the whole way. If you do hang up the ball, you want the cable to give some rather than causing damage to the boat or rigger. After running the downriggers a couple of times, you’ll get the hang of it. You should also try avoiding tight turns, especially if you have a lot of line out. If you turn too tight, lines will cross and things will get ugly. Make wide turns. You should also try to troll in a sort of zigzag pattern. More like a S-shaped pattern. This will cause the jigs to speed up and slow down, makes them not trail right behind the boat, and also allows you to cover a little more water.
    thanks man, for the info. that is some good stuff for a greenhorn. thats kinda what I been looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apb View Post
    Also note, you'll want to use your regular motor (or kicker) not your trolling motor for this.

    Andrew
    another question if you don't mind. how far back from the ball, is a good distance for the bait. if I'm trolling with my big motor. the fish I've been seeing on laurel are about 30ft deep, will the big motor spook them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    another question if you don't mind. how far back from the ball, is a good distance for the bait. if I'm trolling with my big motor. the fish I've been seeing on laurel are about 30ft deep, will the big motor spook them?
    Last weekend while salmon fishing, they used a rubber band instead of the clips for the down rods. Basically the wrapped the rubber band around the line and then hooked it to a clip on the ball. This worked much better than the clips, according to the guys.

    I don't know. I've been on charters that used both.

    Later,

    Geo

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Last weekend while salmon fishing, they used a rubber band instead of the clips for the down rods. Basically the wrapped the rubber band around the line and then hooked it to a clip on the ball. This worked much better than the clips, according to the guys.

    I don't know. I've been on charters that used both.

    Later,

    Geo
    hey man, thanks for the info. this is new to me, but I'll get it. now I guess I'm a little slow on some things, I don't see the picture your showing me with the rubber bands. are you saying instead of putting the fishing line in a release clip at the ball, wrap a rubber band around the fishing line and clip it instead of the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    another question if you don't mind. how far back from the ball, is a good distance for the bait. if I'm trolling with my big motor. the fish I've been seeing on laurel are about 30ft deep, will the big motor spook them?
    For stripers, I put the jigs back 100 feet behind the ball. Other species can be different. I know salmon fishermen keep them pretty close. For stripers or hybrids, the downrigger releases work real well. You'll also have to keep in mind that the jigs will drop some below the cannonball. As a rough estimate, at 2 mph, 20# mono, a 1/2 oz bucktail will drop around 10 feet. A 3/8 oz around 7-8 feet. The cannonball will also rise some as you move through the water. The deeper you drop them, or the faster you go, the more fall back on the cannonball. If you have a decent depth finder you should be able to see the cannonball. It will show up as a roughly solid line across the graph. Takes a little getting used to figuring out exactly where the baits are, but once you get it down you start producing a lot more consistantly.

    Andrew

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