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    Quote Originally Posted by TimE View Post
    I think i was pretty clear that the name calling was in jest. Heck i figured that would have been clear?

    This is a perfect example of how legalized pot could have benefits, but instead of using a logical argument some chose to compare pot to other legal harmful substances. Two wrongs don't make a right and the alcohol vs. pot argument doesn't hold water. I'm all for a vote on the matter and wouldn't be suprised if it passed in Ky, but i guarantee that the " it's not as bad as alcohol" argument will fail.

    This is also another perfect example of why a flat/fair/999 tax rate would level the playing field. No more would taxes just burden the productive, it would also bitch slap the dealers abusing the welfare system.
    Hahahahaha I thought I was clear that I was talking about you with the "reply with quote" post.

    Anyway, I thought most agreed with the law enforcement people in that post by RT about how making it legal would let them deal with other crimes and save some taxpayers dollars and resources to deal with more serious issues. I have always maintained that by making it legal (commercially grown hemp should be right now) it would open up a large conduit of taxable products. Since pot is illegal the only folks who cash in are the people breaking the law and the "old blood" lawmakers are still so paranoid over pot they won't even legalize hemp here in KY but other states are making it legal to actually sell pot?!?!?!?

    Taking a purely economic view on the Hemp crop in KY shows how beneficial it could be to the farmers and the other industries but its not allowed to be grown since pot is evil and they assume both plants are the same. I'm definitely not an expert on this but there is enough information out there that says commercially grown hemp is a viable crop.

    i do agree with you that making pot legal would put the majority of dealers and small growers out of business unless they wanted to go legal and pay taxes. There will always be illegal grows if and when it's legal because that's human nature. People like to make their own and bypass some of the costs of taxes and regulations. Heck people still make Moonshine and alcohol is legal!

    If pot was legal it would be regulate and if it was to follow some of the laws of booze like drinking and driving, moonshine, public intoxication or whatever....the money would come in from those law breakers. I know money plays a HUGE part in this war on drugs so any changes to those laws would meet alot of resistance......that's the problem, money talks and common sense goes out the window. I was told by a trooper friend that States get alot of money from the Feds for their war on drugs. You know the just say no campaigns and that most of the war on drugs is a money grab from the states so they do what is mandated by the Feds and get the cash. I don't know if its true but it sounds about right to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Hahahahaha I thought I was clear that I was talking about you with the "reply with quote" post.

    Anyway, I thought most agreed with the law enforcement people in that post by RT about how making it legal would let them deal with other crimes and save some taxpayers dollars and resources to deal with more serious issues. I have always maintained that by making it legal (commercially grown hemp should be right now) it would open up a large conduit of taxable products. Since pot is illegal the only folks who cash in are the people breaking the law and the "old blood" lawmakers are still so paranoid over pot they won't even legalize hemp here in KY but other states are making it legal to actually sell pot?!?!?!?

    Taking a purely economic view on the Hemp crop in KY shows how beneficial it could be to the farmers and the other industries but its not allowed to be grown since pot is evil and they assume both plants are the same. I'm definitely not an expert on this but there is enough information out there that says commercially grown hemp is a viable crop.

    i do agree with you that making pot legal would put the majority of dealers and small growers out of business unless they wanted to go legal and pay taxes. There will always be illegal grows if and when it's legal because that's human nature. People like to make their own and bypass some of the costs of taxes and regulations. Heck people still make Moonshine and alcohol is legal!

    If pot was legal it would be regulate and if it was to follow some of the laws of booze like drinking and driving, moonshine, public intoxication or whatever....the money would come in from those law breakers. I know money plays a HUGE part in this war on drugs so any changes to those laws would meet alot of resistance......that's the problem, money talks and common sense goes out the window. I was told by a trooper friend that States get alot of money from the Feds for their war on drugs. You know the just say no campaigns and that most of the war on drugs is a money grab from the states so they do what is mandated by the Feds and get the cash. I don't know if its true but it sounds about right to me.
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    Not sure just how I feel about drugs in general, Never had a youngster or family member hurt by them but my first reaction is legalize all of them, in my opinion the war on drugs is doing us more damage than the drugs themselves... Maybe if they were all legal we wouldn't have so many violent gangs ruining parts of our cities and making folks scared to come out of their homes... I'm sure initially we would have to bury a lot of folks but that is their choice.... I'm not an advocate of the alcohol being a disease idea either, just like smoking cigarettes, those things are choices, not diseases.

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