What Causes Terrorism

[apb]

Interesting link jcb. Agree with Bob on this. As much as all of us would like to enact revenage on terrorists, it won't help us in the long run. It basically would mean changing our views to that of the terrorists. Why would we wish to emulate those who we despise? We are better than that. Much better to take the high road and maintain who we are. If we stoop to the level of the terrorist then they have won, we are them.
Andrew

[mhall]

Interesting link jcb. Agree with Bob on this. As much as all of us would like to enact revenage on terrorists, it won't help us in the long run. It basically would mean changing our views to that of the terrorists. Why would we wish to emulate those who we despise? We are better than that. Much better to take the high road and maintain who we are. If we stoop to the level of the terrorist then they have won, we are them.
Andrew

I think extracting valuable information trumps that. If torturing this piece of garbage into getting intel to save more REAL American lives then by all means do it. To Hell with that guy he is a murdering piece of trash, get what we need out of him and then kill his useless ass. This is what these heathens understand, they don't understand all this feel good crap...

[kygorski]

While watching him strangle from a bungee hanging,it will only pass a few hours at most. Remove all his teeth, let him spend the rest of his life taking clarinet lessons

[parker]

I think extracting valuable information trumps that. If torturing this piece of garbage into getting intel to save more REAL American lives then by all means do it. To Hell with that guy he is a murdering piece of trash, get what we need out of him and then kill his useless ass. This is what these heathens understand, they don't understand all this feel good crap...

A whole bunch of men have died to insure this does not happen.

[parker]

LOS ANGELES (AP) — The city of Los Angeles reached a $4.2 million settlement with two women who were injured when police mistakenly opened fire on them during the manhunt for disgruntled ex-cop Christopher Dorner, an official said Tuesday.
City Attorney Carmen Trutanich announced the sum to KNBC-TV Los Angeles, and an attorney representing the women confirmed the amount to The Associated Press.
The settlement must still be approved by the Los Angeles City Council.
Margie Carranza and her 71-year-old mother, Emma Hernandez, were delivering papers around 5 a.m. on Feb. 7 when LAPD officers guarding the Torrance home of a target named in an online Dorner manifesto blasted at least 100 rounds at their pickup.
Hernandez was shot in the back and Carranza had minor injuries.
The settlement means they cannot pursue any future injury claims against the city.
Dorner had vowed warfare on Los Angeles Police Department officers and their families for what he called an unfair firing.
He killed four people, including two law enforcement officers, during his nearly one-week run from authorities.
Attorney Glen Jonas, who represents the women, called the settlement amount fair and said it spared the city from defending a case that involved eight police officers and would have likely cost millions of dollars.
"The only certainty was the litigation was going to cost everyone a lot of money and a lot of time," Jonas said.
Jonas sent a nine-page demand to the city more than a month ago that provided an opening to negotiations. He said he negotiated with Trutanich for weeks before the deal was reached on Monday night.
"We're two veteran trial lawyers trying to settle a case, and we both understand the reality of litigation and what it costs to both sides," Jonas said.
The women agreed to receive the payment after June 30 — the end of the fiscal year — to help the city with its budgeting. The agreement came in addition to a separate $40,000 settlement reached earlier for the loss of the women's pickup truck.
"For them, the money is not the issue as much as (the city) just doing the right thing," Jonas said. "Everyone agreed that they were wronged, but we didn't know whether responsibility would be assumed ... It's pleasant to get that done without having to go through years of litigation."
The eight officers remain assigned to non-field duties pending an internal investigation

Here is an excelent example why not to pass judgement.

[GeoFisher]

LOS ANGELES (AP) — The city of Los Angeles reached a $4.2 million settlement with two women who were injured when police mistakenly opened fire on them during the manhunt for disgruntled ex-cop Christopher Dorner, an official said Tuesday.
City Attorney Carmen Trutanich announced the sum to KNBC-TV Los Angeles, and an attorney representing the women confirmed the amount to The Associated Press.
The settlement must still be approved by the Los Angeles City Council.
Margie Carranza and her 71-year-old mother, Emma Hernandez, were delivering papers around 5 a.m. on Feb. 7 when LAPD officers guarding the Torrance home of a target named in an online Dorner manifesto blasted at least 100 rounds at their pickup.
Hernandez was shot in the back and Carranza had minor injuries.
The settlement means they cannot pursue any future injury claims against the city.
Dorner had vowed warfare on Los Angeles Police Department officers and their families for what he called an unfair firing.
He killed four people, including two law enforcement officers, during his nearly one-week run from authorities.
Attorney Glen Jonas, who represents the women, called the settlement amount fair and said it spared the city from defending a case that involved eight police officers and would have likely cost millions of dollars.
"The only certainty was the litigation was going to cost everyone a lot of money and a lot of time," Jonas said.
Jonas sent a nine-page demand to the city more than a month ago that provided an opening to negotiations. He said he negotiated with Trutanich for weeks before the deal was reached on Monday night.
"We're two veteran trial lawyers trying to settle a case, and we both understand the reality of litigation and what it costs to both sides," Jonas said.
The women agreed to receive the payment after June 30 — the end of the fiscal year — to help the city with its budgeting. The agreement came in addition to a separate $40,000 settlement reached earlier for the loss of the women's pickup truck.
"For them, the money is not the issue as much as (the city) just doing the right thing," Jonas said. "Everyone agreed that they were wronged, but we didn't know whether responsibility would be assumed ... It's pleasant to get that done without having to go through years of litigation."
The eight officers remain assigned to non-field duties pending an internal investigation

Here is an excelent example why not to pass judgement.

You are COMPLETELY off base with your pass judgement statement.

This post has nothing to do with passing judgement. It has everything to do with not CORRECTLY identifying who was in the vehicle. NOTHING ELSE.

These police officers were no different than the idiot in the woods with a 30-06 shooting at a flash of white because he thought he saw a solid 10 pt buck, yet all he really saw was a flash of white. That white could have been all kinds of stuff, including the teenager ducking behind the bushes in a tee-shirt.

Your example of passing judgement is way off base.

Later,

Geo

[parker]

You are COMPLETELY off base with your pass judgement statement.

This post has nothing to do with passing judgement. It has everything to do with not CORRECTLY identifying who was in the vehicle. NOTHING ELSE.

These police officers were no different than the idiot in the woods with a 30-06 shooting at a flash of white because he thought he saw a solid 10 pt buck, yet all he really saw was a flash of white. That white could have been all kinds of stuff, including the teenager ducking behind the bushes in a tee-shirt.

Your example of passing judgement is way off base.

Later,

Geo

I dont think so. They wanted to be the hero and render their own judgement! Why shoot at a truck with 2 women in it who did nothing wrong? I dont understand why they are not fired.
A cop should understand what he is shooting at versus a deer hunter with absolutely no training other than past editions of Field and Stream. Guess them cops took a brush shot huh?

[psprowler]

I'm going to pass a little judgment from this statement.............

"For them, the money is not the issue as much as (the city) just doing the right thing,"

What's a 71 year old going to do with her half of 4.2 million?

[HURRICANEBOB]

Ya know what? We want to be safer? Lets crack down on drunk drivers, and gun toting drug abusers. They kill more each year than terrorists, or radicals do.

PS: That don't mean we do less with the the "outsiders". Access the total threats to life and react accordingly.

[parker]

Ya know what? We want to be safer? Lets crack down on drunk drivers, and gun toting drug abusers. They kill more each year than terrorists, or radicals do.

PS: That don't mean we do less with the the "outsiders". Access the total threats to life and react accordingly.

Exactly!

[Devils Horse]

Ya know what? We want to be safer? Lets crack down on drunk drivers, and gun toting drug abusers. They kill more each year than terrorists, or radicals do.

PS: That don't mean we do less with the the "outsiders". Access the total threats to life and react accordingly.

That has nothing to to do with the subject at hand.

How many drunk drivers or gun toting drug abusers have you seen intentionally blowing up innocent people? How many times have you missed a flight because the security lines were choked up while they looked for drunk drivers or gun toting drug abusers?

[mhall]

That has nothing to to do with the subject at hand.

How many drunk drivers or gun toting drug abusers have you seen intentionally blowing up innocent people? How many times have you missed a flight because the security lines were choked up while they looked for drunk drivers or gun toting drug abusers?

Give it up Jim I have....bleeding hearts will always be just that. Some of these guys could find the silver lining in a Derby Chow wagon Porta- Pot, it is truely mind boggling..