Reply With QuoteYour TAX dollars at work.Originally Posted by waterdog101
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if you have lost your job, or your wages have been reduced. for no fault of your own.
and your having trouble making your home mortgage, check this out. it could make your house payment for up to 18 months, while you search for another job. http://www.kyhousing.org/protect/
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Your TAX dollars at work.
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More help??? I thought things were in recovery mode?? Lower unemployment housing market coming back so why do we need more gubment help??? Are our leaders fibbing to us AGAIN!!!!????!!!
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yes, your right and doing good work, helping keep a shelter over a needy family's head.
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there's still a few that need a helping hand, I thought this was a good way to spend some of the tax dollars I've been sending the Government. things are getting better, and I can see where tax dollars are wasted, but helping a family keep their home is a good thing. and I do think President Obama and all his coworkers are capable of telling a fib.
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A GOOD use of those GOD ZILLION dollars the Obamunists are spending would be to help BUILD the bridges between to STATES as in INTERSTATE.
I think it is complete and utter horse **** that my tax dollars go to pay for SCUMBAGS to **** off the tit of gubment versus building infrastructure, and WHEN they do build infrastructure, that ROGER anyone who plans on using the bridge.
In about a year, or 2, it will cost me 1200 dollars/year......Maybe more to go to FREAKING WORK. The bridges project has done two things..........Effectively ruined any chance of interstate commerce downtown, and caused significant headaches for the 64 and 2nd street bridges.
Talk about dumbass idiots..........
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Geo
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I just have a major problem with this "no fault of their own" pass people seem to get anymore. If you qualify it's for up to a house loan of $275k??? How many people do you know that live in a house that costs that much?? Then consider how many people making that kind of money lost their jobs? It just stinks. I thought a lot of jobs lost were lower paying and these people had little business in homes costing that much.
I don't live in a house like that. Could I?? Yes no problem but why?? So I could give I could give large chunks of my income to a lender???? Naw that's stupid.
So you see like I said before you see a handout from the gubment and immediately assume it's for a needy family who has been victimized by the process, played by the rules, underpaid and over worked but I see the idiots who multiply daily living beyond their means, not putting plans into place, looking for handouts, bitching that they are owed something.
Dont you know people like this?? I know plenty of idiots who get drunk beyond comprehension weekly, spend large amounts of money on drugs, cigs and bars and rent a home. They gripe about not having enough from their employer but forget that they made the decision to cruise while the rest of us went to college , military or trade schools to better ourselves. They can't stand the idea of working in a professional or gubment position because it might hinder the ability to smoke pot and come up dirty on a pp test....some people will not grow up....It's maddening!!!! It's never their fault....ever!
I also see a party (democrats) that will jump up in a heartbeat to start another social handout, bailout program since it buys votes and sells out the American work ethic even more than it already has been.
GOP idiots do it to but all I'm saying is that for five years now your party has spent more money, promised more bullcrapp and sold out every legal tax paying person for the minority of people who have either chosen to live like a loser or have fallen on hard times. Maybe a little planning should have been done by these family's?? Maybe less kids, better education, better choices or whatever i hate the fact that it's my problem to fix their stupid ways.
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This is from Constitutional Lawyer. Please read!!! Jim Hines A Constitutional lawyer has read the entire health care bill. His findings:
A retired Constitutional lawyer has read the entire proposed health care bill. Read his conclusions and pass this on as you wish. This is stunning!
The Truth About the Health Care Bills
– Michael Connelly, Ret. Constitutional Attorney
Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200:
The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009.
I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.
To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession.
The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government.
However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.
The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own.
The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.
This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, in direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, of all of your personal healthcare information, your personal financial information, and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.
If you decide not to have healthcare insurance, or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However , that doesn't work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the due process of law.
So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much, out the original ten in the Bill of Rights, that are effectively nullified by this law. It doesn't stop there though.
The 9th Amendment that provides: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people;
The 10th Amendment states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.
I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution." If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it, without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.
For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution, and Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.
Michael Connelly
Retired attorney,
Constitutional Law Instructor
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This is scary Ky fanatic, Thanks for post. They sent us to training the other day about this Obama care, I do not like it it is just plan bad,period, Do you guys think that we couod be headed toward a revolution? I"ve heard about FEMA camps and Marshall law, and from what I see coming thru my office at Health and Family services it does not look good. Is our country gonna fall? A lot going on and it worries me for my step kids and wife. What you guys think?
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I'm worried that's for sure. I'm worried that rates are gonna be outright criminal for anything but gubment healthcare. I still maintain that this obamacare was nothing more than a power/money/tax grab by the gubment. I also firmly place the blame for this on all politicians. Notice I didn't say leaders? These guys are terrible and at he same time masterminds at insuring they stay in power by passing legislation that invades our lives as mush as possible.
The ONLY thing about obamacare that makes me smile is that anyone who voted for Obie will get the same shaft the rest of us will get. No argument or discussion would have proven my point about this crooked legislation to any Obie lover as will this train wreck that's coming.
i am disappointed beyond belief at how stupid people can be. Anything this guy says gets passed off as gospel even when it doesn't make sense, even when it's discussed and questioned to the point he is proven to be wrong people still hang on his every word. He is evil and bad for this country and again I can only smile at what's coming and will grin even more as liberals and knuckleheads who voted for him start to wake up and cry.
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