amnesty

[waterdog101]

Well I don't agree with you but nothing new. There is a lot more to this than a broad stroke of the brush saying all of us are illegals. I watched my mom go through the naturalization process. I recently watched my friend at work do it as well and several friends who were born in Scotland. There are millions and millions who did it the right way and many more doing it right now. When my buddy from Sri Lanka did it here in Kentucky it was an emotional thing. He cherished it and was proud. The illegals broke the law and did nothing to pledge their allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. That should mean something to you. It means a hell of a lot to me and my family who served in the Military and we all said the same "I do" when we enlisted. Being an American should not be cheapened by some amnesty act of a guilt free acceptance into our country. They need to pay.

A lot of them don't speak English, they don't care about how we became who we are. From what I have seen in the news many of them don't even care about America...they just like to get free crap and scream we owe them for being hard working. Well news flash not all of them are hard working and not all of them are fine upstanding folks. Many think Mexico is a better place and they want communities of nothing but Mexican speaking folks. No need to learn the language because we don't make them. That's wrong....wanna live here learn the freaking language!!! Press 1 for English??? How about no. How about speak the language or hang up!!!

The illegals who are here with or without kids or kids born here from illegals are illegals iMO. They should all be penalized for breaking the law. Can't arrest them...too many of them. Can't send them back because they would come right back. Can't kill them so what do we do??

How about start with the law....Don't we ever enforce the law anymore?? What's wrong with following the law and not our hearts? I know there is no way we can send back all the illegals but when amnesty happens there has to be a penalty.

The idea of applying the Native American saga to today is unfair. Just like applying the slaves of long ago to today. It's weak, an excuse and I'm sick of hearing about it. There has to be a point when we stop trying to repay any injustices from long long ago. It happened it's over.....the end.

You want to apply some sort of heart felt sentiment?? How about all the military men and women who have died to make this country safe? Where is the heart felt sentiment for them? They did crap tons more for you and me then some illegals who broke the law and sucked off the gubment teat, work tax free and expect our great way of life without lifting a finger to earn their place. Why can't you appreciate them as much as you always pull out your little violin and play sappy tunes about black thugs being killed or illegals getting a free pass. Your on the record a lot of giving in to emotional junk.....I'm not that easy. If someone wants to come here then by God they should pay or do it legally!!! To many wars have been fought, to many people have been killed and to many families have been forever changed so we can live like we do. It wasn't luck...it was blood sweat and tears and you don't seem to understand that.

Luck???? Man that's so closed minded and disrespectful!!

man, you wrote a book, almost. I do apply heart felt compassion, for anyone that has a hard life. and skin color don't change what I see. I do know what our Armed Forces have done. my Granddad was in WW11 and one of my uncles, my Dad was in Korea, and I joined the Military in 1971. I'm far from being closed minded, I can see back fare enough, to see this country taken from the Native American people that it belonged to. by our forefathers, or illegals which ever name you prefer calling them. that is why I said everyone here, are illegals besides the Native Americans. life is very short, enjoy life and have a little compassion for others. don't be so hung up on the Government tit. that tit helps a lot of needy folks. I work every day and know a lot of guys half my age, feed off the tit you so often refer to. I don't like that, but I try and think of the ones that are helpless and what would they do without the Government assistance, or the tit as you call it. I would much rather see my tax dollars, being spent on Government assistance than being spent on million dollar missiles, when we already have enough weapons to destroy the world many times over.

[DJD]

man, you wrote a book, almost. I do apply heart felt compassion, for anyone that has a hard life. and skin color don't change what I see. I do know what our Armed Forces have done. my Granddad was in WW11 and one of my uncles, my Dad was in Korea, and I joined the Military in 1971. I'm far from being closed minded, I can see back fare enough, to see this country taken from the Native American people that it belonged to. by our forefathers, or illegals which ever name you prefer calling them. that is why I said everyone here, are illegals besides the Native Americans. life is very short, enjoy life and have a little compassion for others. don't be so hung up on the Government tit. that tit helps a lot of needy folks. I work every day and know a lot of guys half my age, feed off the tit you so often refer to. I don't like that, but I try and think of the ones that are helpless and what would they do without the Government assistance, or the tit as you call it. I would much rather see my tax dollars, being spent on Government assistance than being spent on million dollar missiles, when we already have enough weapons to destroy the world many times over.

First off thank you for your service!
Now the problem I have with Liberals is this...their compassion always impacts me. Amnesty is a no brainer but the illegals should pay. A few other Liberal acts of compassion...Global Warming, Healthcare and gun Ownership. Every single one of those involves your ideas of compassion getting in my wallet or trying to change my way of life.
Could you please send all your money to these causes that you so dearly love? Maybe it will show you how you don't really have as much compassion as you pretend to. Global warming....sell your car get a bicycle, sell all your evil electronics and move to California and live with the other posers. You should also provide others with free healthcare. Go to the local Health Department and start paying bills for people who can't seem to make it. It's your money so feel free to spend it on others....just stay out of my wallet. I don't care if you want to waste your money on Mexicans, the atmosphere, some stupid snail dart fish or whatever else he liberals feel compelled to "save" just stay out of my wallet.
Your twin "moveon" seems to think Global Warming is sooooooooooo important but he has done little to save the planet. I have asked him many times what he has done to decrease his global carbon footprint. Instead, he is cutting and pasting articles on what he kinda believes in. Same with you and your compassion of others....especially poor little thugs who get what they had coming to them. UberLiberals feel like it's their duty to spend our money but not your own first. Until you spend everything you have you and the other UberLiberals are just talking crap. Don't you remember what your parents taught you? Mind your business or get your act together before you complain about others? Is it that big of a problem to live your beliefs with your own money and stay out of mine? Gubment has to exist. Slavery and control like the Liberals want does not have to exist.

[GeoFisher]

First off thank you for your service!
Now the problem I have with Liberals is this...their compassion always impacts me. Amnesty is a no brainer but the illegals should pay. A few other Liberal acts of compassion...Global Warming, Healthcare and gun Ownership. Every single one of those involves your ideas of compassion getting in my wallet or trying to change my way of life.
Could you please send all your money to these causes that you so dearly love? Maybe it will show you how you don't really have as much compassion as you pretend to. Global warming....sell your car get a bicycle, sell all your evil electronics and move to California and live with the other posers. You should also provide others with free healthcare. Go to the local Health Department and start paying bills for people who can't seem to make it. It's your money so feel free to spend it on others....just stay out of my wallet. I don't care if you want to waste your money on Mexicans, the atmosphere, some stupid snail dart fish or whatever else he liberals feel compelled to "save" just stay out of my wallet.
Your twin "moveon" seems to think Global Warming is sooooooooooo important but he has done little to save the planet. I have asked him many times what he has done to decrease his global carbon footprint. Instead, he is cutting and pasting articles on what he kinda believes in. Same with you and your compassion of others....especially poor little thugs who get what they had coming to them. UberLiberals feel like it's their duty to spend our money but not your own first. Until you spend everything you have you and the other UberLiberals are just talking crap. Don't you remember what your parents taught you? Mind your business or get your act together before you complain about others? Is it that big of a problem to live your beliefs with your own money and stay out of mine? Gubment has to exist. Slavery and control like the Liberals want does not have to exist.

KaBOOM...............Ka, Ka, Ka, KaBOOM............

[kyfanatic]

man, you wrote a book, almost. I do apply heart felt compassion, for anyone that has a hard life. and skin color don't change what I see. I do know what our Armed Forces have done. my Granddad was in WW11 and one of my uncles, my Dad was in Korea, and I joined the Military in 1971. I'm far from being closed minded, I can see back fare enough, to see this country taken from the Native American people that it belonged to. by our forefathers, or illegals which ever name you prefer calling them. that is why I said everyone here, are illegals besides the Native Americans. life is very short, enjoy life and have a little compassion for others. don't be so hung up on the Government tit. that tit helps a lot of needy folks. I work every day and know a lot of guys half my age, feed off the tit you so often refer to. I don't like that, but I try and think of the ones that are helpless and what would they do without the Government assistance, or the tit as you call it. I would much rather see my tax dollars, being spent on Government assistance than being spent on million dollar missiles, when we already have enough weapons to destroy the world many times over.

Funny,but I never hear you liberal geniuses mention the fact that those "poor" Mexicans were actually from SPAIN and came ,killed,conquered,and mistreated the natives there worse than Europeans did in the USA,or that most of these Latin American countries have plentiful natural resources but instead choose to live in poverty instead of building a better govt and life,so why should we let them come here to do the same

[kygorski]

Funny,but I never hear you liberal geniuses mention the fact that those "poor" Mexicans were actually from SPAIN and came ,killed,conquered,and mistreated the natives there worse than Europeans did in the USA,or that most of these Latin American countries have plentiful natural resources but instead choose to live in poverty instead of building a better govt and life,so why should we let them come here to do the same

The illegals were talking about had little to do with spain.They are mostly native to latin america, with mostly indian blood. That area was taken from the natives by spainish colonists. Just like florida. LA Raza which means the race, started out like the NAACP, and there are radical bnranches of it. One branch has been actively "ethnicly cleansing" area in california. Next on their list are the eastern european, they have dreams of the whole south west being anothjer country. I don't believe much of it, but that kind of crap is out there.

[kygorski]

I'm third generation american, grand parents came from poland, via ellis island. There was migration from germany, the nordic countrys , ireland,and south east asia. Just like austrailians, they were transplants.There were no jews in america, and the garden of eden wasn't in st louis.[probably branson mo]. We ALL know this stuff.So what happened? How is one part of the county "more american" than others? When I was in the service, our company had native americans[4] puerto ricans,latinos, germans[from germany drafted when they were here]. But we had one badge of distinction a tag that sais US ARMY. No difference between vols and draftees.

[GeoFisher]

The illegals were talking about had little to do with spain.They are mostly native to latin america, with mostly indian blood. That area was taken from the natives by spainish colonists. Just like florida. LA Raza which means the race, started out like the NAACP, and there are radical bnranches of it. One branch has been actively "ethnicly cleansing" area in california. Next on their list are the eastern european, they have dreams of the whole south west being anothjer country. I don't believe much of it, but that kind of crap is out there.

He's talking historically...........Not about the last 10 years. Maybe 400-500 years ago.

AND the bull **** about native people. THAT is BULL ****. I don't here folks talking about the Germanic tribes that were exterminated in the 12th century....they were native people. Or the Japs and what they did to Koreans a few 100 years ago...they were native people.

Or what African nations are CONTINUING to do to native people.

Lands are conquered.....get over it.

Those ******* IMPERIALISTS in the United States..........Just when was the last time we "conquered' a land and took it. Based on all the liberal SUM BITCHES on this site, IRAQ should be a state, Afghanistan should be a state, Panama should be a state, KOREA should be a state, Viet Nam should be a state.........

You Leftists pretty much disgust me.

Later,

Geo

[kygorski]

My two friends and I went to barcelona spain, it was a free trip courtesy of MATS. Service guys can fly space available, to almost any place in the world if you have leave papers that are legal, and there is an airforce base there.. Guess what? No tacos, no tequila, no cervasa, But it was cheap, there were women, and some night life. Not as fun as copenhagen or berlin, but it was fun. so wasplace pigalle, and the reaperbahn, if you looked british.[off limits to US personell.] Zapata was not spanish, niether was paucho villa.Those folks were there long cortez, and pizzaro. The french foreign ;legion fought in mexico for a little while. Patricio county TX was named for an american conscrited military unit, that joined the mexican cause. Do a little search on your hero ronnie, and you'll see he also granted a form of amnesty. Now I can't prove this, but its my opinion, that Reid would not support some immigration bills, because it would cost him money and votes.Who knows how many undocumented workers there are in Nevada,theres more than a 100 casinos, and most of them are below minimum wage jobs.To sum all this up, its the age old them wats got,use them that ain't.

[kygorski]

I seem to see a lot of that term in response to some of my posts. Am i a leftist? Maybe to you I am. but this leftest served his country. this leftist spent 5 weeks in a army general hospital in germany, was this a bonus for leftest service. I PAID DUES TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT, AND FOR THE USA. What did you do?

[kyfanatic]

The illegals were talking about had little to do with spain.They are mostly native to latin america, with mostly indian blood. That area was taken from the natives by spainish colonists. Just like florida. LA Raza which means the race, started out like the NAACP, and there are radical bnranches of it. One branch has been actively "ethnicly cleansing" area in california. Next on their list are the eastern european, they have dreams of the whole south west being anothjer country. I don't believe much of it, but that kind of crap is out there.

Yes and the White People in the USA have little to do with European countries anymore,We are mostly Native to this country and some of us are mixed with Native Indian Blood as well,so what's your point? My family is documented as having come to this country by 1608 at the latest.They have fought in every war since that time,My Grandfather fought in 8 major battles of World War I and won ever medal except the Medal of Honor at that time,was hit with mustard gas and still took out 2 German machine gun nests that killed all but 7 in his outfit,My Fther fought in France and Germany in World War II and stayed in Berlin after the war for two tours as well. I lost a brother at the battle of Khe Sanh in Vietnam,had another brother wounded in action serving in the 82nd Airborne Special Forces during the Tet Offensive,and received a purple heart during action myself,my brother who survived action in Vietnam also had cancer from exposure to Agent Orange,refused to sleep indoors or a bed for a couple years after retutrning home,and had nightmares for years from the atrocities he saw.It took until 6 months before he died to get the proper help and treatment he deserved from the Bill Traitor Clinton Administration.
Something tells me your great service and time in a hospital was self inflicted,because no true Patriot thinks or acts like you.

Liberalism = Mental Illness

[kyfanatic]

Yes,both Ronald Reagan and George Bush passed Immigration Bills,the difference is that they signed those bills after Congressional Vote unlike the Traitor Obama who BREAKS THE LAW and uses Executive Orders lie he is Dictator in waiting,Had Congress voted and passed Obama's Immigration Order I wouldn't be happy,but wouldn't be bitching about his Criminal Actions.

[Hlleonard]

And the end result is the same however the bills get through, you guys can scream all you want about this and try to justify what the right wing presidents did but in the end illegals were granted amnesty weren't they... Scream all you want, neither side is sending all illegals back and I think this president has deported as many as any of the rest... All this is nothing more than right wing rhetoric as it always is...