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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    I've done a Little research on this. It seems many of these kits use electric current to break down water. Some break down H2O into HHO, which is a gas version of water. It looks like making a "system" can be quite inexpensive in itself. But the problem comes from the vehicle's computer, which is already tuned inefficiently. Based on what I have read, without "retuning" the computer a home made system like this can only see up to a 10% increase. There are sensors that monitor how much oxygen is in the exhaust. If there is too much, the computer sends even more fuel than normal. Some of the pre-made kits include a secondary computer that retrains (Reprograms?) the car's computer to accept one of these systems.

    I would be very interested in the opinions and help from those who have done this! Have you done anything to reprogram the system?

    Heck, I want to put one on my boat. Why not?

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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    I have seen that programer also.. I know this setup works without a programmer but i also believe that if you could do a little adjusting to your computer you would get better results.And as for your boat.. I was trolling around cumberland thinking the same thing..lol But i don't know what it would do to a 2 stroke... But i am gonna try and get my lawnmower to run on hydrogen alone by next summer

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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    My boat is a four stroke, but from what I have read, I doubt it would matter. As a matter of fact, I think it would help a two stroke even more, since I would think the burn is hotter.

    I would like to see your plans. Do you have them via electronic?

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    Duane.. I don't have any plans one here.. but where do you live if i am anywhere close i would be happy to show you what i got and ley you go from there..

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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    [I]'m no auto buff. But am familiar with hydrogen, being a H@ plant operator for many years. This stuf is extremly flamable, and tricky to contain,The company I workrd for has done a lot of research on fuel cells, and have some working industrial models. But here comes the rub, how will the auto industry and the oil companys adress this issue?California had a ne emission law in the 70s and there was a lot of work done on electric cars, that was scraped by congressm why?Battery patents were bought up, and are being kept away from the public.California also had public charge stations set up, those were removed, the cars were recalled, and scraped.Dont worry, if any break through is made, it will be japanese, or german, not american.

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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    here is a link to some info on building a hho generator.. there is alot of good info here.


    http://diyhydrogenhho.com/

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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    Quote Originally Posted by LarryG View Post
    [I]'m no auto buff. But am familiar with hydrogen, being a H@ plant operator for many years. This stuf is extremly flamable, and tricky to contain,The company I workrd for has done a lot of research on fuel cells, and have some working industrial models. But here comes the rub, how will the auto industry and the oil companys adress this issue?California had a ne emission law in the 70s and there was a lot of work done on electric cars, that was scraped by congressm why?Battery patents were bought up, and are being kept away from the public.California also had public charge stations set up, those were removed, the cars were recalled, and scraped.Dont worry, if any break through is made, it will be japanese, or german, not american.

    Sounds like you watched "Who Killed the Electric Car" or am I wrong? Lots of shaddy political/corporate stuff is what keeps the electric, fuel cell........... cars from making it into the mainstream.

    If anyone hasn't watched "Who Killed the Electric Car" you should and I bet you come away from it mad as I did about most of it.

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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    http://www.hydrogengenerator.cc/index.php

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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    Ok guys stop and think WOULD THE FEDERAL Gov really allow hydrogen or electric cars. THINK at 38 cents per gallon TAXES if there is no gas being sold GOBZILLIONS of dollars lost !!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    Quote Originally Posted by Duayne View Post
    I've done a Little research on this. It seems many of these kits use electric current to break down water. Some break down H2O into HHO, which is a gas Some of the pre-made kits include a secondary computer that retrains (Reprograms?) the car's computer to accept one of these systems.
    I would be very interested in the opinions and help from those who have done this! Have you done anything to reprogram the system?
    Heck, I want to put one on my boat. Why not?
    This is exactly what I saw. That O2 sensor adjustment and the amount of HHO that your able to generate from your canister is key to getting that sweet increase in efficiency. Basically the more you can throw at it, the more you can back it off from the factory setting. That micro adjustment amounts to substantial fuel savings.

    I do think that auto manufacturers are aware of the potential, but also the liability and volatility of HHO. Politically this is a joke, I'm a republican and think big oil has got this covered. Our government is a joke and it's still better than 95% of what everyone else in this world has.

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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    Quote Originally Posted by thebassman30 View Post
    I do think that auto manufacturers are aware of the potential, but also the liability and volatility of HHO. Politically this is a joke, I'm a republican and think big oil has got this covered. Our government is a joke and it's still better than 95% of what everyone else in this world has.
    I really believe if there was Market viability for this......SOMEONE would have done it. MONEY is made to be MADE......and some enterprising person will come up with a way to make this SAFE, EFFICIENT, and CHEAP. Once that happens, IT will make it into the mainstream. They key is SAFE. Hydrogen is one of the Most DANGEROUS end EXPLOSIVE gasses out there, and simply "baking" some up on demand, may cause you to go KABOOM.

    Later,

    Geo

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    Re: Hydrogen for fuel increases MPG

    Well i don't know if i agree or not.. With a hydrogen generator you are not storing any gas... as soon as it is made it is being sucked into your engine. Yes there is a chance of a small fire ball or maybe a really small explosion but the chances are slim as long as your connections are made out of the container..

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