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He is still the president, so yes he can do SOMETHING now.Originally Posted by GeoFisher
Andrew
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This can't be serious. How can Obama, who was just elected several weeks ago, who hasn't even taken office yet, or has no executive authority be blamed for this. I can't believe this at all.
I just don't see the logic behind your finger pointing, Geo. I guess Obama being elected is also the direct cause for our current Cheap gas prices. Thank goodness he was elected, I can now afford to go fishing more often.
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I believe what he is saying is that the promises that Barry made have companies and people kinda nervous. Smart business is to wait and see what he will do.
Col, look at what he is already saying about his educational ideas. They are going to the back burner..#5 on the list so don't expect much from that. I think Barry kinda got the whole country thinking he is the Messiah so now he is having to live up to the media hype and great speeches. The Libs and the media made this guy so lets see what he can do.....I'm hoping he backs off these new tax increases.
The gas prices will be claimed by the Libs.
Last edited by DJD; 11-21-2008 at 04:07 PM.
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Funny, I seem to remember sometime this summer several repub members of this board claiming that the recent high prices were the dems fault. I also remember several of the "libs" on this board saying no. I still stand by that statement....The gas prices will be claimed by the Libs.
Andrew
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Oh come on now you know it's always the Libs fault.
On a serious note anyone have an idea of what has happened to the price of oil? It's great but what caused it? No Hurricanes? Economy? OPEC get the hint? The answer before was that's what happens when an election is over.
Don't forget that the high prices have always been blamed on Bush and his oil connections, remember? Hillary and Nancy P. swore to everyone that once they take control of Congress this gouging would stop. What happened? The prices went through the roof! Whose fault was that? Libs, like I said in the beginning.
Didn't Barry and Al Gore say the prices are ok at $4.00 a gallon? Something along the lines of now we will be forced to seek other sources of fuel. Myself, I like the idea of REAL LEADERSHIP that looks forward without being backed into the corner. That's the fault of all those goons not just one party.
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I think the low gas prices can't be pinned on any group, nor the high prices that we saw and will see again should be pinned on any group - I was just making a point. I think the high gas prices is one of the only perks for consumers in this economic crisis. We all know this crisis is due to the accumulation of many factors none of which are the President elect's fault - however, you could put some of the blame on paranoid conservatives spreading fear of what the future holds. Truth is you don't know what will happen, neither do I - I am just hoping for the best.
On the education note - I am fine with education getting pushed to the back burner for the time being. The absolute worst thing that can be done to education now is to impose a bunch of changes without any resource or financial backing available to make those changes - that is what G.W. did, and we (educators) are still trying to dig ourselves out of that hole. I think educaion, educational accountability, and educational structure will undergo some possitive changes during this next administration - but the economy must take priority to all other issues for now.
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I would roll it over to a tax exempt(no fee) low risk mutual fund. The risk is not as big the growth potential is there and there is no penalty to pay. You won't make a bunch of money onit fast but it would be safer. After the economy improves then you can diversify to value or more risk and faster money makers.
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I would rather invest in CD's vs Any Stocks at the present....At least your going to get a profit at the end of each year on the CD's...Then just roll the CD's over and have more money......
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I say let the Government take over the car industry. Add those workers to the millions that already work for the Government. I'm sure the politicians can run them better than the unions. We will end up with free cars. I like it.
As for oil, I remember Pelosi saying she was going to WEAN us off of oil. Thats no new drilling anywhere. Matter of fact, thats no oil. BO agrees with this because he has said as much. What do you think happens to investors when our leaders make such statements. You can only go by what they say they are going to do. Does anyone remember why Anwar was set aside in the first place? No it wasn't because of the wonderful tundra. It was set aside by Carter to preserve that area so that we could use it's resources when needed. One political party decided to let the environmentalist take over that issue. I don't know how you can blame a party that wants to drill here and drill now and save money. Wouldn't it be nice to have our own oil while we work on other technology and thumb our nose at OPEC? Sounds like a winner to me. Oh thats right, that thinking lost.
As for education, I say we should go back to the kind of teachers I had in school. Right an assignment on the chalk board and start reading a news paper. Aint unions great!
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Sounds great until you realize that it is unlikely that the US would see any of that oil. It will go to the highest bidder, most likely China. Better to keep it in reserve until it is really needed and we can put it to use here. I agree with you that we need to really be working on other technologies, though I would not be thumbing my nose at OPEC. Giving them the finger, yes
Andrew
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Then why do we drill in the first place. We should allow others supply all our needs, just like our Government will supply all of it's citizens needs? Until someone official says it doesn't do any good to pump the oil that God has blessed us with, I say drill here, drill now and save money. I don't care if it only means we pay just one cent less at the pumps, I say bring it on. We all know why we don't drill as much as we should and it has nothing to do with other countries. It has everything to do with this country and those who think they are saving it. Get the environmentalists out of the way and we will be fine. Let the oil companies do their job. Russia recently found a huge reserve of oil and said they would be up and running in a month. Our politicians say it will take 10 yrs to start up in this country, why is that? It's because of all the hoops the evil oil companies have to jump through because of Government mandates and because of all the legal wranglings brought on by the environmentalist. When was the last time our oil rigs were wiped out by a hurricane? What was the impact on the environment from the mess that those damaged oil rigs created? I say instead of acting like my money is the Governments money, they should start trying their hardest to let me keep more of my money. If its a penny at the pump I say bring it on. This idea of a gas tax holiday as being a gimmick is offensive to me. That is my money and I don't like some high and mighty politician telling me I cant have more of my money because he thinks it's a gimmick. I could care less about punishing evil oil companies. They do the work and provide a product that we need, not to mention providing millions of jobs around the world. It would be nice if we would allow them to provide a few million more jobs right here on our land. I don't believe in confiscating profits from anyone for the purposes of perpetuating Marxism. I don't believe the Government has the right to twist their arm or mine, but I do believe we just elected a president who said he is going to use the heavy hand of government to do just that.
One last thought. I see the side affects of more oil wells in our oceans not as potential environmental disasters, but as additional structure for fish and thus more enjoyable fishing experiences. See, everybody wins.
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Again, how can we be sure that drilling in ANWAR will send oil to the US not somewhere else?
The gas tax vacation was a gimmick. You might have saved $30 over the summer. Not going very far on that. That tax goes to fix the infrastructure. How do you plan on keeping roads/bridges repaired if you take away several billion dollars?
A look at eastern KY 20-30 years ago and you would see why environmental laws are needed. Creeks all flowing black cause of coal run off.
Yep, the oil companies do give us something we need. I just wonder how much we are getting guaged in the process. For example, a few weeks back I pull up at a gas pump. Sign outside says $1.59/gallon regular. Cool! As I am in line getting ready to pay, guy behind the counter gets a call. Something happened in the mid east, price is going up to $1.89 now. The guy in front of me and I got the $1.59, people coming in after me got the $1.89. Hmmmm, I don't remember seeing a gas truck come and deliver more gas while I was there???? S'plain that one!
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