Someone Tell My WHY!!!

[DJD]

The average teacher pay is around $34/hr - that is just for time spent at school, this does not include the twenty some hours per week that the average teacher spends on planning and other stuff outside of school. That seems a little backwards to me. Especially considering that all teachers are required to eventually earn a Masters degree.

You need a better union!

[Col Forbin]

You need a better union!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

[kygorski]

No you dont need a union, you need nonsense policies like no child left behind. Georgia is going forward with a plan to eventually do away with special education needs, and mainline all students, this is not going to end favorably. We will lower the educational standards to the lowest denominator. Who thinks this stuff up?

[bassin_bug]

No you dont need a union, you need nonsense policies like no child left behind. Georgia is going forward with a plan to eventually do away with special education needs, and mainline all students, this is not going to end favorably. We will lower the educational standards to the lowest denominator. Who thinks this stuff up?

The educational system has been screwed up for so many years. My precious one got caught in a reverse educational trap; she was bored in every school and constantly complaining. She was making all A's but there was no challenge for her and no place for her because she "aced" everything offered. We had her tested and her IQ was extremely high so we moved her to a school for gifted children which is an Academy of Math and Sciences. This year she won the science competition, went on to MSU for the state competition and took second place there. Imagine a 12 year-old demonstrating and explaining the chemical changes that occur in terrestial plants grown in a mineral nutrient reservoir vs hydroponics. I hate to think how many children there are, just like her, who have no one to be an advocate for them. It's easier, and cheaper, just to dumb the children down to the schools lowest level. What benefit will the unions be to children who are denied adequate education today but don't qualify for the job when they are adults tomorrow?

[GeoFisher]

The average teacher pay is around $34/hr - that is just for time spent at school, this does not include the twenty some hours per week that the average teacher spends on planning and other stuff outside of school. That seems a little backwards to me. Especially considering that all teachers are required to eventually earn a Masters degree.

CRY me a RIVER...........

* YOU ALSO get summers OFF.........
* YOU ALSO GET a PENSION......
* YOU ALSO GET FANTASTIC medical COVERAGE.

I'd gladly pay teachers............GOOD TEACHERS..........double that amount, but find me the GOOD TEACHERS............most I have ran into are UNION protected, tenured.........MORONS.

GET rid of the UNIONS in education, MAKE teachers PROVE they can TEACH, ENFORCE education guidelines.........THAT will make education in our system better.

Later,

Geo

[GeoFisher]

If the big 3 reduced their cost by 2-3 thousand dollars would you buy American? If this is the case instead of a bail out, lets tax the non US owned car companies 3-4 thousand dollars per car/truck sold in the US, and give it to the big 3.

We already did something VERY similar to that in the late 70's early 80's. During the OIL embargo, Japan, and Korea started flooding are markets with CHEAPER, more economical vehicles. OUR illustrious government decided to TAX the HELL out of those cars.........something like 20 or 30 percent.

You wanna know what happened...........THE BIG 3 raised their vehicle prices to MATCH the taxes.........UNBELIEVABLE GREED.

LET them all file bankruptcy..........that will FORCE Labor to make concessions, hell they may even get RID of the unions, making the profitable AGAIN.

Later,

Geo

[GeoFisher]

Finantial corps give more money to candidate's elections ??

Andrew

It has nothing to do with the fact that they are financial companies.

THE financial instruments that are in trouble STILL have value.....LOTS of VALUE. When house X was purchased last year for 500k. THERE is something that MADE it worth 500k. Even though the market devalued it, and now the market says it is worth 400k, it still holds VALUE. Maybe, JUST Maybe, it is still really worth 500k or maybe 550k or 600k.

The mortgages are not simply sold 1 at a time, rather Mega Banks, purchased bundled mortgages..............some good, some bad. MOST GOOD.

When the housing market started going belly up, and people STOPPED paying their SILLY loans.......you know balloons, or Variables that shot up an extra 2 or 3 percent, when the person was ALREADY paying WAY MORE THAN they could afford.........those mortgages went BAD. AND they will STILL STAY BAD.

THEN banks, in an effort to make some of the money back started selling the mortgages or homes for CUT RATE PRICES.........so now that 1/2 million dollar house is only worth 300k or 400k. BUT you know what.......it is STILL WORTH 1/2 MILLION. THIS is where the bailout may actually help the government.

If the Bailout actually is used to purchase the bundled instruments, and to prop up banks that purchased these bundled instruments, the government stands to make a TON of money.......Maybe DOUBLE their investment.

While I HATE the bailout, if the AMERICAN TAXPAYER can see a return on this investment in the next 12 18 months, then it was worth it.

Now, with regards to the BIG 3. We're giving the money to MEET PAYROLL, and to pay pensions, etc, etc..............NO WAY do we EVER GET IT BACK.

They say it is a loan, but in reality, if the go belly up, we LOSE IT ALL........TOTAL BS. LET them FAIL, and file bankruptcy.......

Once the FILE bankruptcy, give the WORKERS an additional incentive to stay around through bankruptcy, WITHOUT the UNIONS...........that may actually be a better use of 35 BILLION, instead of giving it to a bunch of LOSERS who think they can run a company..........

BTW.......the LOSER in charge of GM very nearly put Home Depot out of business.......BEFORE the fired his BUTT.

Later,

Geo

[Downwind]

Suppose you do give these crooks the bail out $, who's going to buy the cars they make? They can't sell what they have now so why make more!

[Col Forbin]

CRY me a RIVER...........

* YOU ALSO get summers OFF.........
* YOU ALSO GET a PENSION......
* YOU ALSO GET FANTASTIC medical COVERAGE.

I'd gladly pay teachers............GOOD TEACHERS..........double that amount, but find me the GOOD TEACHERS............most I have ran into are UNION protected, tenured.........MORONS.

GET rid of the UNIONS in education, MAKE teachers PROVE they can TEACH, ENFORCE education guidelines.........THAT will make education in our system better.

Later,

Geo

First, tenure as well as unions do not protect against incompetence. If you are seeing that many incompetent teachers - blame the administrators, not the teachers. An effective administrator will get rid of lowsy teachers, and promote professionalism among staff.

Second, I get 6-8 weeks off in the summer. I spend more than half of those weeks on attending or offering trainings for other teachers, as well as continued education through graduate classes (paid for by me). We have had the retirement discussion before, and I get the same healt benefits as any state worker.

I can comment that I think the state teacher's union is a joke, and I refuse to join. I am one of very few teachers in our district that will not join. Partly because I don't make enough money to afford their fees, but mostly because I don't think there is a need to be a part of a union.

I was ust making a point about the overpayment of workers in the auto industry, not the underpayment of teachers. I would like to make more, and feel we should make a little more - but the points you made, make it all worthwhile for me.

I do want to thank you for wanting to double my salary. I consider myself to be one of the competent ones. I was one of ten teachers in the state, whose assessment materials were selected as the exemplars or models for trainings and assessment development for children with significant disabilities throughout the state.

[bassin_bug]

First, tenure as well as unions do not protect against incompetence. If you are seeing that many incompetent teachers - blame the administrators, not the teachers. An effective administrator will get rid of lowsy teachers, and promote professionalism among staff.

Second, I get 6-8 weeks off in the summer. I spend more than half of those weeks on attending or offering trainings for other teachers, as well as continued education through graduate classes (paid for by me). We have had the retirement discussion before, and I get the same healt benefits as any state worker.

I can comment that I think the state teacher's union is a joke, and I refuse to join. I am one of very few teachers in our district that will not join. Partly because I don't make enough money to afford their fees, but mostly because I don't think there is a need to be a part of a union.

I was ust making a point about the overpayment of workers in the auto industry, not the underpayment of teachers. I would like to make more, and feel we should make a little more - but the points you made, make it all worthwhile for me.

I do want to thank you for wanting to double my salary. I consider myself to be one of the competent ones. I was one of ten teachers in the state, whose assessment materials were selected as the exemplars or models for trainings and assessment development for children with significant disabilities throughout the state.

Hats off to you Col Forbin. Here's my salute.

[mhall]

First, tenure as well as unions do not protect against incompetence. If you are seeing that many incompetent teachers - blame the administrators, not the teachers. An effective administrator will get rid of lowsy teachers, and promote professionalism among staff.

Second, I get 6-8 weeks off in the summer. I spend more than half of those weeks on attending or offering trainings for other teachers, as well as continued education through graduate classes (paid for by me). We have had the retirement discussion before, and I get the same healt benefits as any state worker.

I can comment that I think the state teacher's union is a joke, and I refuse to join. I am one of very few teachers in our district that will not join. Partly because I don't make enough money to afford their fees, but mostly because I don't think there is a need to be a part of a union.

I was ust making a point about the overpayment of workers in the auto industry, not the underpayment of teachers. I would like to make more, and feel we should make a little more - but the points you made, make it all worthwhile for me.

I do want to thank you for wanting to double my salary. I consider myself to be one of the competent ones. I was one of ten teachers in the state, whose assessment materials were selected as the exemplars or models for trainings and assessment development for children with significant disabilities throughout the state.

Keep fighting the good fight Kevin..