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Kind of curious to what everyone thinks about Bunnings decision to vote no on the extension of unemployment benefits are.
I understand where he's coming from in his decision, but with the economy worsening, I would think they (federal government) could rearrange some of the budget. Here’s my concern: There are people who draw unemployment just because they can, they put forth very little effort, if any, to try to find a job, this would definitely cut those people off. On the other hand, there are people who try very hard to find work, any work, and the work is just not out there right now. The little guy is going to be hurt. I feel they (federal government) should try to implement some sort of job corp for these employable people. Heck, put them to work on the roads or railroads one or two days a week, or whatever. I know on my drive to and from work each day there's a ton of potholes that need to be fixed! At least the people would be earning their unemployment and it would have to be cheaper than paying all the benefits of hiring a person to do these non skilled jobs. No it’s not permanent, but it sure would be a good way to make everyone earn their keep. How many parks department workers have lost their jobs, same deal, have some people on unemployment spend a day or two each week working in the city parks. I don't know, my idea's probably make to much sense for teh governement...the entire budget thing is more than I can grasp anyway.
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The unionized city and state workers would be in an uproar if somebody actually put forth an effort to fix roads without 16 foremen holding clipboards watching one guy with a shovel placing loose asphalt in a pothole.
This unfunded spending has to stop now!!! Good for Bunning.
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I am kind of torn by the decision much the same way you are Chub. My biggest problem with bunning doing this is because I believe he is grandstanding. If he were running for re-election again, I don't think he would have taken the same stance.
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His point on not wanting to add to the deficit is valid, but his decision to draw the line NOW, on THIS bill, is nothing short of cynical. Looking at how many honest, hard-working people have recently lost their jobs, through no fault of their own, I'd say that the majority of people presently drawing unemployment are doing so because they HAVE to. Sure, there are always going to be those who are simply milking the system, but I think he's hurting a whole lot of people who deserve better. I guess he thinks he knows how to balance the budget better than the other 99 Senators do. If so, why didn't he run for President?
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Good stuff, there are two sides to this delicate issue.Originally Posted by RoadToad
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The problem is with two faced MORONS on both sides of the isle.
30 minutes before, the DEMS were pushing PAY GO, which is GREAT. ONLY funded bills get voted on and passed, and then this extension came up.
I have NO PROBLEM with these types of programs, but only if they are FUNDED. When you say well lets spend another 10-20-100 BILLION dollars and figure out later how to pay for it........well, that is BS.
Kind of like people buying $300,000 houses, or $50,000 trucks, or $40,000 boats...........I cant' AFFORD it, but I will figure out some time later how to pay for it............
There are very few places where I think deficit spending is legitimate, and this is NOT one of them.
Later,
Geo
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What about those people on unemployment that wont take a job because its "below" them? I think we all know some one right now on unemployment that could get a job making SOMETHING but instead are "waiting" on that job they "deserve."
Tough issue here thats for sure.
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I've been thinking about this some more...There is a right way to seek election or relection and a wrong way. Since Bunning didn't care one way or another about getting relected I think it helped play a role in the decision he made. I think he spoke what was on his mind so to speak...whereas maybe if he was seeking relection he might not have made the same decision. I'm not laid off (yet), so his decision doesn't affect me directly...but there are plenty of people out there who it's going to affect pretty hard. I hope those people who's benefits are about to run out will find a way to make ends meet...a lot of us here on this board know first hand what it feels like to have more time left at the end of the month than you have money, it's not a fun place to be.
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My thought is we all want to help people in need. But how many people would borrow money to give to those in need. No, instead you'd sell stuff or rearrange your budget and give them the money you could spare. Bunning's stance is if it's important enough, they'll find the money for it without more deficit spending.
Cut some federal waste and programs, then use that money to extend employment benefits. While you're at it cut some more programs/government/federal workers and start digging us out of this God forsaken hole you've borrowed us into.
First program to drop is the asinine 2000 page "Healthcare Reform" bill. Fix the existing entitlement programs you've screwed up already up before trying to introduce more.
Take money from the stimulus bill to extend unemployment, then you could say with a straight face it actually served some purpose. Call in the TARP notes immediately and give them that money.
Fire a few useless Czars in the current administration and use that money.
Abolish the Homeland Security Department and use that money.
Use the piles of cash being spent on Census advertisements.
Take a few less flights on Air Force one and use that money.
Drop the sponsorship of NPR.
Get rid of Sarbanes Zoxely NOW.
Eliminate tax 'refunds' amounting to more than people have paid in to begin with.
I could go on all night...
If Bunning were running again I'd vote for him.
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MAN, you hit the nail on the HEAD.........
There are a ton of GARBAGE programs out there..........this 10 billion in extentions. TAKE 10 billion from wasted tarp money..........EASY.
Later,
Geo
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I heard from one lady working AT the UI Office say that she made LESS per week than the people she was filing claims for!!! I just think there is something REALLY wrong with that poor lady working with all those people, who I imagine can be real "gems" at times to work with, and making less for doing her job. JMO.
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Well...so he decided to reverse his decision. Maybe he was feeling the heat from his fellow politicians or maybe the protesting got the best of him, who's to say? One thing's for sure, he sure got some attention directed in the direction it needed to go...STOP ridiculous spending, put the money where it really needs to go, etc. I agree that Bunning could stand to work on his social skills some, but I like the approach he took on this ordeal. But you all know, it's only a 30 day extension, I guess this gives the government 30 days to figure how to get the funds straightened out and allocated in the proper places? At some time or another fella's, somebody is going to have to be the bad guy and drop the hammer and say, NO MORE EXTENSIONS! I wonder when that time is good? Is when unemployment falls back down to below 5% or what?
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