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    Re: Senior night for the Big Blue..

    Quote Originally Posted by lroberts View Post
    The reason I said that is because of what you said about learning new player names and having totally different teams every year....I like players to come to IU because of our history and wanting to add to that history....not because they want to use us for a year and then leave to make $$$. Eric Gordon is a prime example....love him as a player, but I would have been happier to get a 4 year player and watch him grow and become more successful as a player. College basketball is not all about w's and l's...at least to real team/school supporters. Its obvious that most (not necessarily you) UK fans only care about wins, not how or who helps them get them! I love IU because I live here, went to school here, and love our tradition (which includes having success in the past b/c of great coaching with good four year players). Sure I want us to win and do well in the tourney, but not at the expense of one and doner's....especially numerous ones each year.
    So you are telling me you are perfectly fine with being a doormat in the Big Ten, as long as the players stay 4 years? Really?? Come on now. You can't compare past tradition to today's game. Derrick Rose just signed a $250 Million Dollar extension with Addidas. There is way too much money in the NBA for the top level players to stay 4 years in college. Pick out your favorite IU player that stayed all 4 years and went on to be a successful NBA player. Go ask him if the money was as large as it is today would he have came out early. If he says NO, he is telling a lie. Conversely, Crean starts getting the best players and IU goes on the run UK has the past 3 years but he is reloading every year, you are going to stop supporting IU? I think not.

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    Re: Senior night for the Big Blue..

    Quote Originally Posted by Netboy Extraordinaire View Post
    So you are telling me you are perfectly fine with being a doormat in the Big Ten, as long as the players stay 4 years? Really?? Come on now. You can't compare past tradition to today's game. Derrick Rose just signed a $250 Million Dollar extension with Addidas. There is way too much money in the NBA for the top level players to stay 4 years in college. Pick out your favorite IU player that stayed all 4 years and went on to be a successful NBA player. Go ask him if the money was as large as it is today would he have came out early. If he says NO, he is telling a lie. Conversely, Crean starts getting the best players and IU goes on the run UK has the past 3 years but he is reloading every year, you are going to stop supporting IU? I think not.
    Sorry...it was ALREADY asked and ANSWERED, and I don't believe he was lying.

    Calbert Cheaney is Director of Basketball Operations at Indiana University. He stated on the Big 10 network that NO AMOUNT of money would have driven him to the NBA before he graduated. He was the first in his family.

    OH...........he also had 13 successful seasons in the NBA, still holds the Big10 ALL time scoring record, and the following:

    Naismith College Player of the Year (1993)
    John R. Wooden Award (1993)
    USBWA Player of the Year (1993)
    Adolph Rupp Trophy (1993)
    NABC Player of the Year (1993)
    AP College Player of the Year (1993)
    UPI College Player of the Year (1993)
    Sporting News College Player of the Year (1993)
    Big Ten Conference Player of the Year (1993)
    Consensus NCAA All-American First Team (1993)

    Indiana BASKETBALL is about more than wins.....it IS about tradition. We had a walkon last year who's grandfather played for Indiana and whose father was the team doctor.

    Jordy Hulls grandfather was on Knights staff. Indiana kids WANTING to play for Indiana.

    Later,

    Geo

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    Re: Senior night for the Big Blue..

    Quote Originally Posted by Netboy Extraordinaire View Post
    So you are telling me you are perfectly fine with being a doormat in the Big Ten, as long as the players stay 4 years? Really?? Come on now. You can't compare past tradition to today's game. Derrick Rose just signed a $250 Million Dollar extension with Addidas. There is way too much money in the NBA for the top level players to stay 4 years in college. Pick out your favorite IU player that stayed all 4 years and went on to be a successful NBA player. Go ask him if the money was as large as it is today would he have came out early. If he says NO, he is telling a lie. Conversely, Crean starts getting the best players and IU goes on the run UK has the past 3 years but he is reloading every year, you are going to stop supporting IU? I think not.
    Thanks for backing me up Geo....I agree with what you said 100%! First off Netboy, we are not the doormat of the Big Ten....anymore. We have gotten to where we are with good players who represent our school well...not use us to get to the next level. You basically proved my point with your response. I do not want IU to become what you described, caring more about $$$ and wins than tradition and integrity. Would I be ok with Crean recruiting and getting a few one and doners every so often??? Yes I would....but more as an exception, than as a rule!

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