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  1. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    OK, I will try again..........

    Say we ban all handguns, and rifles, and shotguns, and assault weapons........and all bladed weapons......FANTASTIC, we no longer have deadly weapons........

    What happens when a CRAZY person takes there 18 wheeler full of gas and drives it into a packed mall......DO we BAN 18 wheelers.

    We cannot legislate our way out of CRAZY. Crazy people will find ways to kill people if they choose to KILL people......period.

    later,

    Geo
    Making meth and heroine illegal sure got the crap off the streets? I dont think so.

  2. #14
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    Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

    People who want to kill....will. Be it gun, knife, rock, sharp stick, or garden shovel...or rope. People kill with their bare hands, but we don't all run around with stumps now do we?

    I think we all ought to have the right to carry a gun for self protection. And I think those that use a gun wrongully, should get maximum sentences.

    People can see our cars and pickups, and we can kill with them. We don't have to conceal our car, so why should a weapon be concealed? Cars kill more than guns do (with the possible exception of attack of war...granted)

    Per capita for a year: (50 states and Wash, DC) Link: firearm deaths vs Vehicle Deaths | DataMasher
    # of Deaths Due to Injury by Firearms per 100k: 553.4
    # of Deaths Due to Motor Vehicle Accidents per 100k: 849.5

    Don't take away my car, or my gun. Expect me to behave responsibly with them, and punish me severely if I don't.

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    Did we ban airplanes after 9/11?

    NO

    Is Osama Bin Laden still alive?

    NO

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    I'll say again that I'm not against banning guns, but I'm wondering what viable solutions there are. Some of the responses here seem to indicate that we just throw up our hands and accept that these things are going to happen. I know we can never stop all violence or ever come close, but I will say that it sure seems like these incidents of mass shootings (not bombings or 18 wheelers with gas) seem to be increasing. I don't think it's acceptable to just accept it.

    On a lighter note, maybe the answer is to ban guns for men only. Not too many of these mass shootings seem to be perpetrated by women.

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    It seems to me that most of this madness could have been prevented if the owners of the weapons had them in a safe, most importantaly is you have a mentaly unstable person with access to them. I ccw everyday and if it isnt in my possession it is locked up. I also have one bedside in a hand vault. My kids know guns, all are loaded and not toys. They also know how to shoot and reload. They are 12 and 14 girls. The nut jobs momma is the one at fault in this last catastrophe those guns should have been locked up. I trust my kids but not friends or burglars . When my kids are home they have aphone and with one call they will have safe acess and know what to do then. Parents are the ones that need to control their kids, if they cant, get help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by know1 View Post
    I'll say again that I'm not against banning guns, but I'm wondering what viable solutions there are. Some of the responses here seem to indicate that we just throw up our hands and accept that these things are going to happen. I know we can never stop all violence or ever come close, but I will say that it sure seems like these incidents of mass shootings (not bombings or 18 wheelers with gas) seem to be increasing. I don't think it's acceptable to just accept it.

    On a lighter note, maybe the answer is to ban guns for men only. Not too many of these mass shootings seem to be perpetrated by women.
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    If they took the guns away from us it probably wouldn't bother me a great deal, I'm not a gun enthusiast or paranoid about somebody coming into my house and me having no protection from that person, personally I don't believe they are of much use in that capacity unless you answer the door with it in your hand every time the door bell rings... There is a handgun here somewhere and I would not like the government coming here and taking it and telling me I can no longer have it even though I might never see it again if it stays here... I am glad to be living in a country where I don't need it to protect myself... I do believe if there weren't so many guns around making it very easy for people such as the one in this case to get his hands on, we would see much less of this kind of violence as guns make this kind of thing easy to carry out... You guys who keep saying we would still see these things except the perpetrator would be using pipes,knives,ball bats and the like are grabbing at straws, there might still be some instances of it but not nearly as many and not nearly as deadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellkat View Post
    It seems to me that most of this madness could have been prevented if the owners of the weapons had them in a safe, most importantaly is you have a mentaly unstable person with access to them. I ccw everyday and if it isnt in my possession it is locked up. I also have one bedside in a hand vault. My kids know guns, all are loaded and not toys. They also know how to shoot and reload. They are 12 and 14 girls. The nut jobs momma is the one at fault in this last catastrophe those guns should have been locked up. I trust my kids but not friends or burglars . When my kids are home they have aphone and with one call they will have safe acess and know what to do then. Parents are the ones that need to control their kids, if they cant, get help.
    How do you know the guns were not locked up.........I don't know that. He KILLED his mom. Maybe her knocked her out cole, stole the keys to the locks, unlocked them, and then shot her up.

    We don't know.

    Later,

    Geo

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    I dont call a safe a tin box with a pop machine lock or a glass door. My safe is ditital and me a nd my wife have the only code. You wont even enter it with a torch,5 lb black pwder inside. Im just saying if you can afford guns like those a good safe cost about as much as one of them. Ownership of guns comes wirh responsibility. Kill me you wont get them either way. All in all a few nuts are gonna be responsible for god fearing law abiding citizens not to have any rights exept to pay taxes so low- lives can survive

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    I thought guns were already banned on school property? Seems that some people just don't care about laws or whether something is banned. If they want to do it, they will. It is up to us, or should be, to protect ourselves. I wonder what the look on his face would have been if every adult in that school had a gun slung over his or her shoulder and proceeded to draw down on him as he walked toward them. Might have been a big UH OH on his part. All I know is that guns don't kill people, people kill people and a gun in the hand of a law abiding citizen is a good thing.

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    So the State of Tennessee is considering arming the teachers in the schools. Thats really thinking out of the box.

    You can bet that there will be no more dogs eating homework, no more excuse notes singed Mommy, no more talking in class.

    Great thinkers down there in Tenn. Do you think they will send them through 6 months boot camp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kydonky View Post
    So the State of Tennessee is considering arming the teachers in the schools. Thats really thinking out of the box.

    You can bet that there will be no more dogs eating homework, no more excuse notes singed Mommy, no more talking in class.

    Great thinkers down there in Tenn. Do you think they will send them through 6 months boot camp?

    Ky soon will be considering it too. I encourage everyone to contact their state reps to voice their opinion IF in favor. There is only two things that stop these acts of terror, either the shooter gets tired of killing innocent people and kills himself or a responsible person with a gun ends it.

    If we are gonna be in the sheep business then it's time we have some shepherds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kydonky View Post
    So the State of Tennessee is considering arming the teachers in the schools. Thats really thinking out of the box.

    You can bet that there will be no more dogs eating homework, no more excuse notes singed Mommy, no more talking in class.

    Great thinkers down there in Tenn. Do you think they will send them through 6 months boot camp?
    i don't see a need to arm teachers. I see a need to stop restricting the carry of guns on certain property.

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