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    Smile coming soon

    A poll showed support for legal weed in OHIO? But in cleveland, you can hardly smoke anything at all.Maybe we should ban polls.

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    Prowler, no sense wasting your breath, here it is almost a year and a half later and I'm sure TimE is no smarter. He always hated facts, because they got in the way of his cute little rants

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    Well as it stands now there will be no way to really prove this until they come up with some standard of determining acute intoxication with marijuana. Something like the blood alcohol content level for alcohol. Once law enforcement has some standard to go by, then we can really start digging in. Until then though it's all gum-flappin'...

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    Smile STUDY

    Another study? What will we be looking for? There are some beneficial medical uses for weed, and you can over dose on aspirin.Alcohol kills people also. You know what I think[when I do], were more interested in building a SUPER mouse.

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    I've never smoked pot in my life, I did drink a little as a teenager, a couple of the guys I grew up with that drank beer a lot, both died from liver problems. I new several that smoked pot, I wish everyone in the world could stop using both pot and drinking alcohol, both do harm, but if I have to meet another car on the road, with the driver using either Pot or Alcohol, I would prefer meeting a pot smoker,

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    I've never smoked pot in my life, I did drink a little as a teenager, a couple of the guys I grew up with that drank beer a lot, both died from liver problems. I new several that smoked pot, I wish everyone in the world could stop using both pot and drinking alcohol, both do harm, but if I have to meet another car on the road, with the driver using either Pot or Alcohol, I would prefer meeting a pot smoker,
    Yeah your right about that. The stoner will be doing 35 and it feels like your doing 75 while the drinker will be doing 75 and feeling like he's doing 35. I rather be in the company of a stoner vs. the company of a drunk as well. As long as weed is illegal it will be easier for kids to buy than a beer is. That sounds kinda weird at first until you consider the fact that a drug dealer does not card young folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psprowler View Post
    When I googled "Colorado traffic accidents marijuana", the first link was this one.....

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...historic-lows/
    Yep people will twist any situation to fit their needs or arguments. Largely most of my opinion on weed is based on how I lived as a young adult. We smoked weed like some people smoke tobacco...3-4 times a day was a minimum. Much more on weekends and at parties. I know smoking weed can make you slow down both mentally and physically but IMO it doesn't impair your awareness as much as alcohol.

    I think folks that want to hang on to the "war on drugs" with their uninformed opinions will always stay in that cloud of confusion. When people want to demonize something they attack it with false facts and misleading information.

    So if a person kills another person in a head on collision while texting and is drunk as a skunk but smoked weed two days ago and they test his blood they will get a positive test for weed....but what caused the accident? Well i maintain the media would say "man high on pot kills driver in head on collision" it serves their agenda. It's just the way it is....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Yep people will twist any situation to fit their needs or arguments. Largely most of my opinion on weed is based on how I lived as a young adult. We smoked weed like some people smoke tobacco...3-4 times a day was a minimum. Much more on weekends and at parties. I know smoking weed can make you slow down both mentally and physically but IMO it doesn't impair your awareness as much as alcohol.

    I think folks that want to hang on to the "war on drugs" with their uninformed opinions will always stay in that cloud of confusion. When people want to demonize something they attack it with false facts and misleading information.

    So if a person kills another person in a head on collision while texting and is drunk as a skunk but smoked weed two days ago and they test his blood they will get a positive test for weed....but what caused the accident? Well i maintain the media would say "man high on pot kills driver in head on collision" it serves their agenda. It's just the way it is....
    sometimes you make real good sense my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Yep people will twist any situation to fit their needs or arguments. Largely most of my opinion on weed is based on how I lived as a young adult. We smoked weed like some people smoke tobacco...3-4 times a day was a minimum. Much more on weekends and at parties. I know smoking weed can make you slow down both mentally and physically but IMO it doesn't impair your awareness as much as alcohol.

    I think folks that want to hang on to the "war on drugs" with their uninformed opinions will always stay in that cloud of confusion. When people want to demonize something they attack it with false facts and misleading information.

    So if a person kills another person in a head on collision while texting and is drunk as a skunk but smoked weed two days ago and they test his blood they will get a positive test for weed....but what caused the accident? Well i maintain the media would say "man high on pot kills driver in head on collision" it serves their agenda. It's just the way it is....
    Designer weed today is not the weed smoked 20 years ago. There are some studies that say the designer stuff is 20 times stronger.....

    I personally believe weed to be a gateway. Not to ALL drugs and not for ALL people, but it is. It can also be said that Alcohol is a gateway......

    I don't know. If we don't want to regulate it then fine, but we should make it a DEATH penalty case for dealing or cooking meth.......

    I'm willing to compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    Designer weed today is not the weed smoked 20 years ago. There are some studies that say the designer stuff is 20 times stronger.....

    I personally believe weed to be a gateway. Not to ALL drugs and not for ALL people, but it is. It can also be said that Alcohol is a gateway......

    I don't know. If we don't want to regulate it then fine, but we should make it a DEATH penalty case for dealing or cooking meth.......

    I'm willing to compromise.
    I agree weed exposes someone to other drugs. It did for me and I played around with it for years. I have friends who couldn't let go and still engage in the other drugs...but....the one drug that has them "hooked" is alcohol. A beer after work, beer if they go fishing, beer if there is a cookout, beer is there is a tailgate party, beer if people are over and on and on. The sad part is a ton of people drive after they have been drinking but get away with it.

    I drink beer and take an occasional shot of something stronger so I'm not saying it's wrong..heck it's legal and that says it all but I can't get past the dangers of alcohol compared to weed while driving. I do not smoke weed because if I did I would be fired. We work around some high profile gubment projects and healthcare facilities that have drug tests.

    Most of the weed I see is home grown. It smells great and looks pretty but most of the stuff people smoke isn't as potent as what they say on tv. Hell who could afford it? The stuff we called "downtown brown" is still popular because it's cheaper and does the job.

    Meth is a killer that's for sure. Cooking it is dangerous, smoking it is dangerous and being around idiots who smoke it is dangerous. We had a guy here who was smoking it and I knew something was up from his actions before he started his self implosion. This guy would show up in the middle of summer with a beanie and a huge oversized jacket on, he would have scratches on his face and head and would be going a million miles an hour with the attention span of a fly. Well in a span of a week he didn't show up for work, our work truck that he decided he needed to move was found on the side of a road in town and once he finally answered his phone he said his girlfriend had stolen our work truck. This dude was a mess and when we finally got the truck back he looked like a methhead you see on tv....a total mess. Not long after that he was arrested again for breaking and entering and that was it for him. 3 time loser and spent some time in prison.

    You know I have said it before...I have smoked weed and drink beer and using myself as the litmus test I see alcohol being 10 times more dangerous with driving or operating machinery. JMO....

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    I've never smoked pot in my life, I did drink a little as a teenager, a couple of the guys I grew up with that drank beer a lot, both died from liver problems. I new several that smoked pot, I wish everyone in the world could stop using both pot and drinking alcohol, both do harm, but if I have to meet another car on the road, with the driver using either Pot or Alcohol, I would prefer meeting a pot smoker,

    I AGREE. If you have an accident with a pot smoking driver, he probably won't remember what happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    but we should make it a DEATH penalty case for dealing or cooking meth.......

    I'm willing to compromise.
    I agree, the punishment should fit the crime. Meth kills, with not beneficial use.

    I think pot users, if convicted, ought be required to attend memory improvement training. I had the phone number for a great course with 8 in-attendance type classes. But I can't remember where I put it.......

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