Stock market

[ZoraSpook]

Market seems unimpressed by political elections. Inflation appears in recent reports to be down a little.

[Moveon]

Market seems unimpressed by political elections. Inflation appears in recent reports to be down a little.

I'm always down for cheaper prices

[GeoFisher]

Market seems unimpressed by political elections. Inflation appears in recent reports to be down a little.

What Ganja you smokin..........Markets are up about 1000 points today.

My expectations are about a 10-20 percent over 5-6 days. VERY CLEAR, very TARGETED euphoria.

And then PUKE.......

Money to be made right now in the right areas.

[Moveon]

What Ganja you smokin..........Markets are up about 1000 points today.

My expectations are about a 10-20 percent over 5-6 days. VERY CLEAR, very TARGETED euphoria.

And then PUKE.......

Money to be made right now in the right areas.

Yea the markets are up because Joe Biden is President and got things done for the people


He did more than anyone in his first term. Good ole Joe

[ZoraSpook]

Yea the markets are up because Joe Biden is President and got things done for the people


He did more than anyone in his first term. Good ole Joe

😂😂😂 man, pass me the bong and tell GEO to pass the lighter. Don’t give Biden credit for the gains unless you also give Joey credit for the dip to the 28 level the market is working back from. It dipped imho cause Biden scared the heck out of investors. Ergo my comment at the top that market seems unimpressed NOW with politics. Market reacted to real data and not the dems shall we say somewhat canted view of reality.

And why slowing inflation? Supply low demand high price high inflation bizerk. Price to high, people stop buying, refuse high prices, sales drop , supply increases with lost demand and prices level off some, less inflation .

So cmon folks, let’s party while we can before Biden scares the hell out of investors again 😂😂😂

[Moveon]

 man, pass me the bong and tell GEO to pass the lighter. Don’t give Biden credit for the gains unless you also give Joey credit for the dip to the 28 level the market is working back from. It dipped imho cause Biden scared the heck out of investors. Ergo my comment at the top that market seems unimpressed NOW with politics. Market reacted to real data and not the dems shall we say somewhat canted view of reality.

And why slowing inflation? Supply low demand high price high inflation bizerk. Price to high, people stop buying, refuse high prices, sales drop , supply increases with lost demand and prices level off some, less inflation .

So cmon folks, let’s party while we can before Biden scares the hell out of investors again 

But I do drink occasionally. Sometimes you guys just don't get me. haha. That quip was for Geo. I didn't mean to trap you on that one.

My point is that the President can't be blamed for increases or decreases in the Stock market. He does not pass laws, the congress does that. And with the Senate divided and the filibuster still in place nothing can get done in the US Senate without the approval of the GOP members. And Mitch has made sure that Biden can't get anything pass him. In fact he said he would do everything in his power to obstruct and stop Biden from passing any laws though the US Senate. We have discussed them a few times before. As the President can't really control the price of gasoline or oil. OPEC does that though pumping more or less oil which caused the price to go up or down as the demand is pretty much high all the time.

So light up that stogie man and have a few drags.

[ZoraSpook]

But I do drink occasionally. Sometimes you guys just don't get me. haha. That quip was for Geo. I didn't mean to trap you on that one.

My point is that the President can't be blamed for increases or decreases in the Stock market. He does not pass laws, the congress does that. And with the Senate divided and the filibuster still in place nothing can get done in the US Senate without the approval of the GOP members. And Mitch has made sure that Biden can't get anything pass him. In fact he said he would do everything in his power to obstruct and stop Biden from passing any laws though the US Senate. We have discussed them a few times before. As the President can't really control the price of gasoline or oil. OPEC does that though pumping more or less oil which caused the price to go up or down as the demand is pretty much high all the time.

So light up that stogie man and have a few drags.

Here's part of t. See at this link, charts 3 and 5. Demand dropped in 2020 with pandemic, and production did too. so when demand took off again, production had to ramp back up, and in the nterim demand got ahead of supply. So as prices in my opinion started to rise, the industry then poised to expand, got stiffled/investores scared off by the go-green crowd.

Looking forard to seeing the 2022 numbers when in cause I think, gut reaction production will still be up more.

[Moveon]

Here's part of t. See at this link, charts 3 and 5. Demand dropped in 2020 with pandemic, and production did too. so when demand took off again, production had to ramp back up, and in the nterim demand got ahead of supply. So as prices in my opinion started to rise, the industry then poised to expand, got stiffled/investores scared off by the go-green crowd.

Looking forard to seeing the 2022 numbers when in cause I think, gut reaction production will still be up more.

Supply and Demand and Prices are just basic economics which I took my Freshman Year at Purdue. It was one of those Saturday Morning classes that freshman had to endure. Econ is pretty simple.

But I'm curious how you blame stiffed/investors on go green crowd? What does go green have to do with it? Green energy should help create more new jobs and reduce the cost of manufacturing and it should reduce the cost of power or energy like electricity.

Here were I live we are getting rid of a 250 MegWatt Coal Powered Plant and replacing it with solar, wind and a natural gas turbine for when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. It's a NG peaking station that only runs when necessary. The cost of power is still going up for some reason due to the high cost of NG these days.

[GeoFisher]

Supply and Demand and Prices are just basic economics which I took my Freshman Year at Purdue. It was one of those Saturday Morning classes that freshman had to endure. Econ is pretty simple.

But I'm curious how you blame stiffed/investors on go green crowd? What does go green have to do with it? Green energy should help create more new jobs and reduce the cost of manufacturing and it should reduce the cost of power or energy like electricity.

Here were I live we are getting rid of a 250 MegWatt Coal Powered Plant and replacing it with solar, wind and a natural gas turbine for when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. It's a NG peaking station that only runs when necessary. The cost of power is still going up for some reason due to the high cost of NG these days.

Who is paying for that solar, and wind ********. Will it ever break even. As long as you recognize it is not economically viable right now. Now if NG was oh say 300% higher, which I believe Leftists want, then you might be onto something.

As long as there is GAS, Coal, and OIL to consume it will always be more economically sound.

I wonder if a horse and buggy is cheaper right now than a car and fuel. Minus the price of the car and the horse, I suspect feeding a horse or two versus filling up my truck with gas is more expensive. I'm not quite too sure though.

My point. Economics drive it all. Sure there are risks with fossil fuels. Risks that I believe are overblown, but the alternative is INFINITELY more expensive. WE need to resolve the issues with funding, and it should not be uncle sugar that funds it.

Later,

Geo

[ZoraSpook]

Supply and Demand and Prices are just basic economics which I took my Freshman Year at Purdue. It was one of those Saturday Morning classes that freshman had to endure. Econ is pretty simple.

But I'm curious how you blame stiffed/investors on go green crowd? What does go green have to do with it? Green energy should help create more new jobs and reduce the cost of manufacturing and it should reduce the cost of power or energy like electricity.

Here were I live we are getting rid of a 250 MegWatt Coal Powered Plant and replacing it with solar, wind and a natural gas turbine for when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. It's a NG peaking station that only runs when necessary. The cost of power is still going up for some reason due to the high cost of NG these days.

I point at go-greenery that don’t put the green infrastructure in place to power the grid .... before.... they shut down the existing infrastructure. Transitions are a reasonable goal when the new is put online first, then the old is retired.

Go greenery don’t talk about the enviro impact of having no processes in place to recycle solar panels or enough capacity to properly dispose of car lithium batteries. To me a reasonable responsible approach is for examples:
1. To be granted fed approval to build electric only cars the same manufacturers should have to clearly prove they will or do have the infrastructure to receive, store, and safely recycle what they make and sell. As it is now the car maker gets the profit of the sale and passes recycle costs on to local state and fed tax payers to find the funds and way to fix it.
2. Old power plants come off line only if new one more green has been online and proves it either meets or exceeds out put at lower emissions than prior system before going down.
3. Feds and states: Plan then act, no more “ ready, FIRE, the aim.

[Moveon]

I point at go-greenery that don’t put the green infrastructure in place to power the grid .... before.... they shut down the existing infrastructure. Transitions are a reasonable goal when the new is put online first, then the old is retired.

Go greenery don’t talk about the enviro impact of having no processes in place to recycle solar panels or enough capacity to properly dispose of car lithium batteries. To me a reasonable responsible approach is for examples:
1. To be granted fed approval to build electric only cars the same manufacturers should have to clearly prove they will or do have the infrastructure to receive, store, and safely recycle what they make and sell. As it is now the car maker gets the profit of the sale and passes recycle costs on to local state and fed tax payers to find the funds and way to fix it.
2. Old power plants come off line only if new one more green has been online and proves it either meets or exceeds out put at lower emissions than prior system before going down.
3. Feds and states: Plan then act, no more “ ready, FIRE, the aim.

I agree. We need to get the new stuff going and prove that it works and can supply our needs of power. We don't want to be caught freezing to death in the dark.

[ZoraSpook]

I agree. We need to get the new stuff going and prove that it works and can supply our needs of power. We don't want to be caught freezing to death in the dark.

Totally agree with that. Worthy goal/responsible to work for a cleaner environment and electric can help get us there.
I'd drive an electric car, but won't till prices make sense, and I'm happier with range, and with safety of recycling aspects.

Would love to see the govt give rebates/inducements for hybrd cars just like they do full electric. I think it would help people make the first step in the right direction, trying a car 1/2 electric, and 1/2 gas before at some point going the next step to all electric. Funny thing now is increasing electric car demands is driving up buy cost, which in turn is keep the reluctant from making the jump. Hard to make the change when the change aint around to support it, and harder to take the challenge of a new type car when the cost is such a consideration.