Flourocarbon Line

[big_bear]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to condition flourocarbon line. I have a real problem with it kinking up and having a lot of memory in it. I have tried several different ways to spool some of my reals. I love the sensitivity but the hassle is a nightmare. I have used 10lb P-line but I am very dissatisfied. I also used Co-polymer Gamma but no very satisfied either, haven't tried the flouro yet. Any suggestions on other brands to try. I thought maybe there was a secret oil or something to put on the spool to help the situation. I am not bashing any brands, I was thinking maybe I was not doing something right? I would appreciate any help.

[Todd2]

Just curious why you don't like the Gamma. It's strong and casts a mile. It's the best mono/copoly out there, IMO. It doesn't have the sensitivity of fluoro though. For fluoro, you'll get a bunch of opinions. I'm trying out Yo Zuri Hybrid (which is part Fluoro, part Nylon(mono)). It's cheap and so far so good. It's not just a fluoro coated like some others, it's a blended mixture. Pretty good sensitivity too. As far as the line conditioner, try the KVD stuff. Good luck...

[wishniwasfishn]

Try the KVD line conditioner, spray it on the night before, and you will be pleasantly surprised.

[SuperSprint007]

First off what type of reel are you using it on. If it is a spinning reel, do not fill the line over 3/4 of the way for it will want to come off the reel too much. Also after each cast flip the bail by hand to reduce line twist. Another thing is if when fighting a fish it pulls drag on every fish, you need to adjust your drag some. when the drag is giving it creates line twist that will give you problems... now if your using baitcasting reel, then you may give the seaguar invisix or abrisix a try. The seaguar has less memory and is more limp than the P-Line.

Flourocarbon line does not absorb water or chemicals so I am not sure what a line condition would do for you after about 10 casts. If your still having problems with the line then I would look at your reels and it may be time to upgrade some of those.

[offdtop]

First off what type of reel are you using it on. If it is a spinning reel, do not fill the line over 3/4 of the way for it will want to come off the reel too much. Also after each cast flip the bail by hand to reduce line twist. Another thing is if when fighting a fish it pulls drag on every fish, you need to adjust your drag some. when the drag is giving it creates line twist that will give you problems... now if your using baitcasting reel, then you may give the seaguar invisix or abrisix a try. The seaguar has less memory and is more limp than the P-Line.

Flourocarbon line does not absorb water or chemicals so I am not sure what a line condition would do for you after about 10 casts. If your still having problems with the line then I would look at your reels and it may be time to upgrade some of those.

The Shimano symetre has a spool setting for fluro to help with twists, KVD line conditioner works as long as you apply it as you are spooling initially.

[big_bear]

Thanks for the advice guys. I am pretty sure its not the gear, its just the operator. I have diawa and quantom reels. I'll try the KVD stuff and see if it works. Maybe my standards are little too high. I just hear alot people raving about how good flourocarbon is, but I don't know what all the fuss is about . Yea I can see its great in super clear water. In the spring, I like some good ol' fashion mono. Once again thanks for the advice.

[offdtop]

Thanks for the advice guys. I am pretty sure its not the gear, its just the operator. I have diawa and quantom reels. I'll try the KVD stuff and see if it works. Maybe my standards are little too high. I just hear alot people raving about how good flourocarbon is, but I don't know what all the fuss is about . Yea I can see its great in super clear water. In the spring, I like some good ol' fashion mono. Once again thanks for the advice.

Big Bear try the invizx by seagar and you will see what all the fuss is about, I have posted many times on this subject only because i spent probably $300 on fluro's last year trying to find the best and so far for me Seagar invizX is the best. I am a berkley big game man but on anything that isn't fast moving Fluro is on the reel ie jigs, worms etc. it's like having braided line in terms of feel you will feel soooo much more when dragging a bait on bottom and you'll feel the slightest of hits and trust me it does feel different

[bigwormy]

im gonna use more flouro this year. i have just not opted to in the past because of the memory. What baits do you guys use when throwing your flouro and why is flouro the better opiton in each situation than the mono? thanks!!

[SuperSprint007]

The Shimano symetre has a spool setting for fluro to help with twists, KVD line conditioner works as long as you apply it as you are spooling initially.

if flourocarbon line does not absorb water or chemicals, how can this help. I see where it would lube it for a while casting, but after so many casts would the condition not come off? I am not doubting you, just trying to see why this works? I did see where it says on the bottle of kvd that it works for both lines, but how?

Also, I agree 100% on the seaguar. For the price you can not beat it.

[big_bear]

Does Gander Mt. have the Seagar Invizx? I need to get some right away. I don't want to be a tournament try new line. I would like to already have that worked out.
bigwormy,
I use flouro on everything from crankbaits to drop shots. I like the flouro in shallow situations because in my opinion the visibility is better in those conditions, for you and the fish. On flouro I am usually making long casts and that's where I am having my problems. If I was fishing close to the boat it wouldn't be a big deal.

[offdtop]

KVD uses it on almost everything, I use it on baits I am counting on feeling "ticks" "taps" slightest bites. Flurocarbon has high tensil strength and for the most part abrasion resistance, with a good fluro you can feel a bite at the offset of the cast instead of halfway back on a long cast, thus better hooksets on longcasts. it is a sinking line so it doesn't work well at all on topwater baits that is where mono or copolymer excels. I like mono on crankbaits because I use stiffer rods and the stretch help where the rod is lacking as where others use glass rods. It is all about sensitivity.

I can hand you 2 identical rods fishing a worm rig 1 with mono and 1 with fluro and tell you to drag the exact same location and you will give me 2 different answers to what you feel. On mono you'll think you were dragging through moss and with fluro you feel were dragging up a rock or over a tree. Compare this reach out your finger and touch something then pick up a 3ft twig and drag over the same thing, you'll have more sensitivity with your finger because you feel it directly (no stretch ) That is the best way I can describe it, but if your fun fishing .....who cares - mono has worked for years, but if you are seriously looking to capitalize on bites then it matters

[Todd2]

I can hand you 2 identical rods fishing a worm rig 1 with mono and 1 with fluro and tell you to drag the exact same location and you will give me 2 different answers to what you feel. On mono you'll think you were dragging through moss and with fluro you feel were dragging up a rock or over a tree.

True and if you had a 3rd rod with braid you'd be able to tell whether it was an oak or a pine.