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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    Completly out of line and disrespectful. He must have thought he was at one of those town hall mettings were this crap flies. And of course he apologized afterwards.

    If you have something to say wait until it's over walk over to the media and call him a liar.

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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    Quote Originally Posted by pontooner View Post
    Completly out of line and disrespectful. He must have thought he was at one of those town hall mettings were this crap flies. And of course he apologized afterwards.

    If you have something to say wait until it's over walk over to the media and call him a liar.
    Oh,you must mean like the Dems did when they BOOED LOUDLY during Bush's entire State of the Union Address
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...the_union.html

    Or let's not forget the fact that the Commie Obamie did OUTRIGHT LIE to all of us

    http://www.mmdnewswire.com/illegal-i...care-5716.html

    ALIPAC Takes Issue With Obama's Lie about Health Care for illegal immigrants
    E-mail | Print | PDF .FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    CONTACT: Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, www.alipac.us, [email protected], (866) 703-0864

    Raleigh, NC (MMD Newswire) September 10, 2009 -- Americans for Legal Immigration PAC is making it clear today that they support Congressman Joe Wilson (R-SC) for his popular stances against illegal immigration and Amnesty and for his warning to the nation during Obama's speech last night when he yelled "You Lie!"

    "It is a real shame that the rest of Congress was not on their feet pointing out the President's lie about illegal aliens in his Health Care plans along with Joe Wilson," said William Gheen. "When a politician lies to Congress and the public in front of Congress, our elected officials should speak out as Joe Wilson did."

    Some Obama supporters in the media and online are making the claim that clapping and approving gestures are appropriate during Presidential speeches, while dissent is improper, rude, barbaristic, etc... ALIPAC believes that dissent has a proper place in any debate and that Obama supporters should not diefy the President.

    "Joe Wilson yelled out what millions of Americans were thinking during Obama's speech," said William Gheen. "We agree with what Joe Wilson said, even if we did not, we would defend his right as an American to speak his mind."

    President Obama lied to Congress and the nation during his speech of 09-09-09 when he claimed "The reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."

    The evidence this is a lie is found in countless major news reports indicating that President Obama and Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) intend to try and pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty legislation soon, that would legalize millions of illegal immigrants and qualify them for all taxpayer benefits and jobs in America.

    Rasmussen Reports poll released this week indicates that 83% of Americans oppose "government health care subsidies"for illegal immigrants.

    Further evidence of Obama's lie is found in the FACT that while illegal immigrants are mentioned in HR 3200 as being ineligible for health care benefits, there are no enforcement provisions and Republican lawmaker attempts to amend the legislation and add enforcement provisions have been voted down by Democrats.

    "Under current law, illegal aliens are not supposed to receive welfare or medicaid benefits. They are not supposed to register to vote or have jobs, either," said William Gheen. "But due to a virtual non enforcement of our existing immigration laws, illegal aliens are stealing American jobs, registering to vote, and receiving welfare and medicaid benefits."

    ALIPAC stands with the over 80% of Americans who oppose taxpayer benefits for illegal aliens, want our borders secured, and oppose any form of Amnesty for illegal aliens. ALIPAC supporters are being encouraged to speak out against President Obama's lie about his health care reform bill and to speak out in support of Congressman Joe Wilson online and on talk radio shows.

    "It is time for all Americans to follow the example of Joe Wilson and speak out against the lies coming out of Washington." said William Gheen.

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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    Quote Originally Posted by kyfanatic View Post
    Oh,you must mean like the Dems did when they BOOED LOUDLY during Bush's entire State of the Union Address
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...the_union.html

    Or let's not forget the fact that the Commie Obamie did OUTRIGHT LIE to all of us

    "Under current law, illegal aliens are not supposed to receive welfare or medicaid benefits. They are not supposed to register to vote or have jobs, either," said William Gheen. "But due to a virtual non enforcement of our existing immigration laws, illegal aliens are stealing American jobs, registering to vote, and receiving welfare and medicaid benefits."

    You assume I think it's okay for Bush to be booed but your wrong. Like I said, wait until the speech is over then tell the media what you think about it. But I can't let you off the hook that easy so I going to play your little game. Make sure you read the little blurbs I posted after my question.

    What part of illegal aliens will not be covered in the Health Care Reform bill do you Pubs not get? It's in there, even in one of the articles you posted.


    Have fun

    1999: Republicans Booed Clinton's Entrance
    Many Republican lawmakers gave him a cool, though not impolite, reception. There were a smattering of boos when Clinton first entered the House chamber, but they were quickly drowned out by applause. Some Republicans barely applauded, or refused at all to clap. House Majority Leader **** Armey (R-Texas) and U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas) were conspicuously silent. [Boston Herald, 1/20/99]

    1998: Republicans Booed Clinton's Medicare Proposal
    Clinton's health-care initiatives, chiefly in the form of a medical bill of rights, found support on both sides, especially his attack on managed-care health-care plans. ... Clinton's proposal to expand Medicare to allow Americans as young as 55 to buy into the system drew shouts of "no" and some boos from Republicans during his speech. [Chicago Tribune, 1/28/98]

    1997: Republicans Booed Clinton's Opposition to the Balanced Budget Amendment
    The Republican response was far warmer than perhaps any of Clinton's previous four State of the Union speeches. Time after time, Republicans jumped to their feet to join Democrats in applauding the president. Only once did they unmistakably and collectively show their disapproval--when Clinton spoke disparagingly of a GOP-sponsored constitutional amendment to balance the budget. Many Republicans hissed and some booed. [LA Times, 2/5/97]

    1995: Republicans Booed Clinton and Walked Out During Speech
    The upheaval wrought by the Republican election landslide was visible throughout the president's State of the Union address - from the moment Speaker Newt Gingrich took the gavel to the striking silence that often greeted Clinton from the GOP. At one point, Republicans even booed. About 20 of them left as Clinton went on and on for an hour and 20 minutes. [AP, 1/24/95]

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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    "...wait until it's over and then tell the media what you think."

    People can't just walk up to a cameraman and say, "wait, I want to be on TV" or to ask a news reporter to give you an interview. There may have been a little problem with that guy getting media time.

    What he did may have been disrespectful according to Miss Manners, but you have to admit his statement got the nation's attention. The media didn't have time to edit it or dress it up with their point of view. In two words the man let the world know the USA has a President that can't be trusted. IMO respect is something that is earned.

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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post
    "...wait until it's over and then tell the media what you think."

    People can't just walk up to a cameraman and say, "wait, I want to be on TV" or to ask a news reporter to give you an interview. There may have been a little problem with that guy getting media time.

    What he did may have been disrespectful according to Miss Manners, but you have to admit his statement got the nation's attention. The media didn't have time to edit it or dress it up with their point of view. In two words the man let the world know the USA has a President that can't be trusted. IMO respect is something that is earned.
    I agree he has yet to earn mine....actually he can't he is full of everything I hate about politics and his agenda goes against my grain. I look forward to the day that he is gone.

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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post
    "...wait until it's over and then tell the media what you think."

    People can't just walk up to a cameraman and say, "wait, I want to be on TV" or to ask a news reporter to give you an interview. There may have been a little problem with that guy getting media time.

    What he did may have been disrespectful according to Miss Manners, but you have to admit his statement got the nation's attention. The media didn't have time to edit it or dress it up with their point of view. In two words the man let the world know the USA has a President that can't be trusted. IMO respect is something that is earned.
    I agree he has yet to earn mine....actually he can't he is full of everything I hate about politics and his agenda goes against my grain. I look forward to the day that he is out of there.

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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post
    "...wait until it's over and then tell the media what you think."

    People can't just walk up to a cameraman and say, "wait, I want to be on TV" or to ask a news reporter to give you an interview. There may have been a little problem with that guy getting media time.

    What he did may have been disrespectful according to Miss Manners, but you have to admit his statement got the nation's attention. The media didn't have time to edit it or dress it up with their point of view. In two words the man let the world know the USA has a President that can't be trusted. IMO respect is something that is earned.

    Sure not ever person can walk up to the media and make a statement but I would think a congressman at a highly debated speech would have no problem, especially one who wants to be heard.

    As far as the respect thing goes, there's a difference in having respect for someone and acting respectful in a place/situation when you should. He's the POTUS like it or not so if some of you don't get it then whatever.

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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    Quote Originally Posted by pontooner View Post
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    What part of illegal aliens will not be covered in the Health Care Reform bill do you Pubs not get? It's in there, even in one of the articles you posted.

    It does specifically state "legal US citizens" in the bill however I believe some democrats are working on a separate measure to increase the amount of money in the Medicaid fund that covers illegals that receive emergency room/hospital care.

    Perhaps there is some confusion/meshing of the two. But how could there be confusion in a 1000+ page bill?

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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    Quote Originally Posted by psprowler View Post
    It does specifically state "legal US citizens" in the bill however I believe some democrats are working on a separate measure to increase the amount of money in the Medicaid fund that covers illegals that receive emergency room/hospital care.

    Perhaps there is some confusion/meshing of the two. But how could there be confusion in a 1000+ page bill?
    No,the problem is Obama and the Dems are working on a bill to make every ILLEGAL ALIEN a legal US Citizen which would give them full coverage under the health care plan,this for committing a crime in crossing our border illegally.They will also be able to dip into our social security fund even though few if any ever paid one red cent into it,and every other program available for them to milk off Legal Citizen's hard work.

    Sorry,but I don't buy it.

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    My buddy's mom works at CBH and I'm sure it's like all other hospitals but an illegal can come in and have a baby for free (10k for that?) sure whats the alternative they gotta help but once it's over arrest them and send them back. Maybe take their car truck or whatever as well.

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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    Quote Originally Posted by kyfanatic View Post
    No,the problem is Obama and the Dems are working on a bill to make every ILLEGAL ALIEN a legal US Citizen which would give them full coverage under the health care plan,this for committing a crime in crossing our border illegally.They will also be able to dip into our social security fund even though few if any ever paid one red cent into it,and every other program available for them to milk off Legal Citizen's hard work.

    Sorry,but I don't buy it.
    Well, yeah, and that bill too!

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    Re: Yelling YOU LIE during a presidential address is CHILDISH.......

    Here's a nice little read about you pubs new found hero Joe Wilson.

    http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thega...re-secret.aspx

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