Maybe their heads were on fire?

[DJD]

I won't judge them either...I try not to judge anyone but every now and then it's easier said than done.

I still think urinating on the deceased is wrong. Sure the youngin's in the film need to be talked to, especially now since it's made world news...but I don't think they need to be court martialed or sent to prison. War is ugly, bad things happen.

There was a part of this that some movie producer should grab ahold of and use in his next film. Apparently one of the soldiers on film was caught saying: "Have a nice day buddy!" as he relieved himself.

I realize we all view things based on what we have learned or experienced so I'm cool with anyone's opinion on this. I agree with kygorski at what point in history did we decide to live up to this standard during war? When our soldiers we raping and killing in Vietnam? Stealing goods in Germany? Taking property from Japanese Americans in WWII? Dropping atom bombs on men, women, kids, babies and old retired folks in Japan?? Or is it that since these dead people are Muslim that we have to be careful??? Btw I only bring that stuff up as things that have happened during war time not as I disapprove or approve. Just that what these young men did seem so minor that it makes me sick to see anything being made of it.

[bankbuster]

What can we expect, as I drive up and down our roadways i constantly see decals in the windows of vehicle that show a little boy urinating on Ford emblems,Chevy emblems,Usama Bin Laden, etc. We all see this and laugh, heck my 11 yr old still cracks up when he sees them. Point being as a nation we are neglecting our obligation to teach children right from wrong. Now, I can't say that I would pee on my dead enemy, but as said before, I'm not judging them. Heck, I am grateful for what they are doing over there and I'll let them live with their own consciences. After someone is killed, the body is just an empty shell that a soal used to inhabit, whether the soal be good or evil it no longer is in the body. The media blows these things out of proportion, I've heard WWII stories about our soldiers cutting ears off of the Japs from people who were there, but then the media didn't care about piddly things like that, the media, the people, the government worried more about winnung the war than whether we were respectful to the feelings of our enemy

[Tom523]

They only reason they pissed on them was because they couldn't kill them again. If someone tried to kill you, you would understand!

[Chubminnow]

Just that what these young men did seem so minor that it makes me sick to see anything being made of it.

I agree with you, I don't want to see anything made of it either, it's war, bad things happen,...unfortunately there probably will be something made out of it since ALL the world knows about it.

(This ain't geared towards you Don)...but as for McCain...who can say anything bad about McCain? I'll tell you what's sad...what's sad is the man lives, eats, breathes, prays and sleeps anything and everything about America. How the citizens of this country could vote for that bozo we have in office NOW tells me EXACTLY how bad of a shape this country is in! If we have a voting public that would turn down McCain and vote for Bozo instead...what we have in my opinion is a majority of voters in this country who are disrespectful idiots.

.02 (I feel better now, lol)

[GeoFisher]

I agree with you, I don't want to see anything made of it either, it's war, bad things happen,...unfortunately there probably will be something made out of it since ALL the world knows about it.

(This ain't geared towards you Don)...but as for McCain...who can say anything bad about McCain? I'll tell you what's sad...what's sad is the man lives, eats, breathes, prays and sleeps anything and everything about America. How the citizens of this country could vote for that bozo we have in office NOW tells me EXACTLY how bad of a shape this country is in! If we have a voting public that would turn down McCain and vote for Bozo instead...what we have in my opinion is a majority of voters in this country who are disrespectful idiots.

.02 (I feel better now, lol)

AMEN..........

[Dave Stewart]

If you have never walked in those Marine grunts boots....you really will never understand this incident. Certainly John McCain and any of the other POW's that went thru the hell of the Hanoi Hilton deserve our respect...but if you don't think the he or any of the other POW's there at that time would have done this and more to their captors that were torturing them, killing them etc if they had a chance at the time then you are kidding yourself. It is easier to be self rightous after you have been back in the good life for 40 years and especially when you are in the limelight of the media.

Semper Fi

[bassin_bug]

Amen, Dave. Just want to mention that, last night, I heard a news commentator say that he suspects the picture had been worked on and certain things were superimposed to make our troops look bad.

As to John McCain, IMO if he was all that wonderful because he was once a POW, and people are still worshiping him, why didn't he become president? I have a problem with him getting so much attention because of his war injuries while thousands of other POWs are completely forgotten. McCain went to war, did his job, was captured and imprisoned and later set free. I respect all the POWs and everyone who went to war, but enough of John McCain is enough unless he is willing to step aside and make room for all the other POWs. jmo

[GeoFisher]

Amen, Dave. Just want to mention that, last night, I heard a news commentator say that he suspects the picture had been worked on and certain things were superimposed to make our troops look bad.

As to John McCain, IMO if he was all that wonderful because he was once a POW, and people are still worshiping him, why didn't he become president? I have a problem with him getting so much attention because of his war injuries while thousands of other POWs are completely forgotten. McCain went to war, did his job, was captured and imprisoned and later set free. I respect all the POWs and everyone who went to war, but enough of John McCain is enough unless he is willing to step aside and make room for all the other POWs. jmo

WOW........you're kidding right?

Reagan himself would have LOST against Obama. It was a perfect storm for a charismatic black man from the DEMOCRAT party.

People were FED up, and they were FED up with what Republicans had done when they had control. I wish BUSH could have controlled the special interests a little more. Not that I didn't agree with 90% of what he did. But the 10% really jacked up any opportunities for the pubs in 2008. The referendums in 2006 were enough writing on the walls to send a message. Unfortunately Bush didn't READ that writing.

JUST like what the DEMS did when they won in 2008 WITH Obama. They got power drunk, and passed crazy LEFTIST bills. And in 2010 another referendum occurred. AND in 2012, YET another one will happen.

I hate to say it, but a complete FISCAL Conservative and a complete SOCIAL Conservative.......if that even exists any longer, will get BEAT.

As pubs, we better figure out just WHO can win......elect them and THEN worry about the complete social and complete fiscal issues.....

Later,

Geo

[bassin_bug]

No, I'm not kidding; I'm as serious as a heart attack. You are entitled to your opinions and I am entitled to mine.

[MrSplitshot]

Dave, I definitely respect your opinion on the deal and was kinda hoping you would ring in on it. You're right - Any of the POWs in Vietnam, given the chance, would have whizzed on the dead bodies of their captors and been happy to do it given the circumstances that they had endured. I also agree that stuff like this happens in war a lot more than the general public ever sees. There were horrendous things going on in Vietnam alone...but that doesn't make them okay. It just so happens that these guys filmed it and shared it with the world. It's a lot easier in today's world to turn an incident behind a sand dune 5000 miles away into world news headlines 5 minutes later. A lot is being made of it, because they made it easy.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and that's cool. We can disagree and still share a beer at the end of the day. All of that said...I still don't think it's right to desecrate dead bodies like that, even if they are the corpses of the enemy.

"Look, marines kill to win, and sometimes they kill a lot and that's good, that's fine, that's war. But in victory we are trained to be compassionate, we are trained to be respectful and this incident was neither of those." -Lieutenant Colonel Jay Stout, a former U.S. Marine Corps pilot

[Tom523]

Dave, I definitely respect your opinion on the deal and was kinda hoping you would ring in on it. You're right - Any of the POWs in Vietnam, given the chance, would have whizzed on the dead bodies of their captors and been happy to do it given the circumstances that they had endured. I also agree that stuff like this happens in war a lot more than the general public ever sees. There were horrendous things going on in Vietnam alone...but that doesn't make them okay. It just so happens that these guys filmed it and shared it with the world. It's a lot easier in today's world to turn an incident behind a sand dune 5000 miles away into world news headlines 5 minutes later. A lot is being made of it, because they made it easy.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and that's cool. We can disagree and still share a beer at the end of the day. All of that said...I still don't think it's right to desecrate dead bodies like that, even if they are the corpses of the enemy.

"Look, marines kill to win, and sometimes they kill a lot and that's good, that's fine, that's war. But in victory we are trained to be compassionate, we are trained to be respectful and this incident was neither of those." -Lieutenant Colonel Jay Stout, a former U.S. Marine Corps pilot

Those brave Marines did what every red blooded American wants to do . Express their feelings about how Americans are treated by them.They sent a message to the Taliban!

[Chubminnow]

As to John McCain, IMO if he was all that wonderful because he was once a POW, and people are still worshiping him, why didn't he become president? I have a problem with him getting so much attention because of his war injuries while thousands of other POWs are completely forgotten. McCain went to war, did his job, was captured and imprisoned and later set free. I respect all the POWs and everyone who went to war, but enough of John McCain is enough unless he is willing to step aside and make room for all the other POWs.

I know you don't like Nobama, and niether do I. And for me...I don't "worship" anyone. The reason he didn't become president is because of some of the reasons Geo wrote, the majority of the voters in america were fed up with Bush, thought Bush was supporting his oil buddies, etc...which NOW we ALL know wasn't true.

I don't give McCain all that much attention either...not even sure he would have pulled us out of the fire...but what really burns my britches is the fact that the american people voted for a politician with little to NO experience over McCain...Ok, maybe McCain wasn't the guy we needed, but I GAURANTEE you NObama should have NEVER been elected! And right now I hope old Newt ain't doing more harm for the republican party than good, which could very well mean four more years of Bozo for president.

I also agree with Splitshot...bad things happen in war and just because they do (Marine or not) it doesn't make them right. I'm under the opinion of what happens at war should stay at war...no filming, photographing and distributing such pictures of video's on the internet. I'm not judging the guys who urinated on the corpses...not even sure what I would do if I was in their shoes, maybe I would have done the same thing as them, who knows, I hope I wouldn't have but who knows. Kind of seems to me they won that fight, killed the opponent, took their lives, etc...leave the rest up to God.