Ted Nugent, when is enough, enough?

[Tim_T]

Nugent plead guilty to more game law violations, this time in Alaska. Not sure why this guys act continualy gets a pass by the outdoors community. This guy now has numerous game law violations in two states, hunts his high fence ranches and acts like it is fair chase and so many people think he is great. When is the Outdoor Channel going to pull his show off the air?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...4ea7908047d66c

[artcarney_agr]

How many deer hunters have you talked to that wounded a deer but didn't count it towards their tags?

[Tim_T]

How many deer hunters have you talked to that wounded a deer but didn't count it towards their tags?

I don't know any that did tht. I also don't know any that hunted where that was the law. Do you see the difference here? How many game law violators do you know? How many were guilty of breaking game laws in MULTIPLE STATES? See the difference? If you know any game law violators, how many of them were considered one of the spokespersons for the hook and bullett sports? See the difference? It is time for you and everyone else to quit defending this guy. It is beyond ridiculous.

Multiple game law violator, high fence hunter....no, I don't think I need Nugent speaking on my behalf, he only does more damage than good. I would prefer to have educated, intelligent folks to speak for hunters and Nugent is certainly neither of these things. If poacher and draft dodger is your thing, than by all means, support him. I choose not to.

[MrSplitshot]

There are left wing nutjobs and there are right wing nutjobs.

While I agree with some of the things that Nugent says, I think he does an excellent job in a big spotlight of being controversial and giving the media fodder for making all sportsmen look like right wing nutjobs.

The fact is that most of us fall somewhere in the middle.

I don't know what I think about the high fence hunting deal. If hunting is truly 100% about the challenge of the sport, nobody would be using high tech ballistics weaponry with 9 bazillion times zoom scopes and all of the "unfair advantages" that those provide. We'd all be using recurve bows like the Indians. There's a challenge. As man has evolved, and wildlife hasn't, we've closed the gap rapidly on "the challenge" aspect of it all.

Fencing in 10,000 acres on some private game ranch is looked at as unsportsmanlike, but using a $2000 rifle with a $1000 scope to pick off whitetail on the plains of Kansas, while in the latest and greatest camo pattern, covered in the latest scent block, and riding in on my $10,000 ATV packed with all the gear is perfectly sportsmanlike. I don't know.

Hunting is as much about the gear and the entertainment than anything...and let's not forgot the MONEY made by the industry. It's not really about population control and it's not really about meat for the fridge and you all know it. It's about the heritage of hunting and the fact that we like playing with guns and bows...we enjoy flexing our muscle from our spot on the food chain...and we enjoy competing with our buddies over points on a buck or beards on turkeys...might as well quit sugar coating it. I'm not condemning it, I'm just calling it what it is. It does provide some population control and that's a good thing, but that's not truly why we do it - That's just a side effect.

As for The Nuge's game law infractions, he should be penalized like any other citizen. It's tough for me to look at someone who has such a loud voice for the American sportsman that is breaking laws in the process - Not cool.

I'm not saying Ted's a complete douchebag...but I'm not saying I'm a huge Nuge fan either. Sometimes he will make a comment on 2nd Amendment and I will give him a "Nuge Rocks" and go on about my day. It is what it is. Ted says a lot of the things that some of us think, especially on gun control, and he's not afraid to say it. I do have this guy sitting on my left shoulder sometimes though wondering how much of it is genuine and how much of it is Hollywood??

[jcb]

The problem is ego. Can make you famous, but also can make you think you're above the law.

[Embrey]

How many deer hunters have you talked to that wounded a deer but didn't count it towards their tags?

why would you?

[Tim_T]

why would you?

Exactly, it isn't aginst the law in Kentucky, but it is in Alaska, and if you didn't follow the law that makes you a poacher!

I just hate the fact that a guy who is a convicted poacher in two different states, acts as a spokeperson for hunters. What's next, Bobby Petrino and Rick Pitino acting as spokesmen for the sanctitiy of marriage?

Split Shot, I agree that it really isn't about population control to the average hunter, but the truth of the matter it does come down to population control. While the average hunter wants to kill a deer for sport and food, the bottom line is that if it weren't for these same hunters, there would be no deer, turkey, elk, bear etc. in Kentucky. The hunters are the folks with boots on the ground, spending cash and funding the restoration of these animals. So in the end, it is about managing the population.

[HURRICANEBOB]

http://music-mix.ew.com/2012/04/22/t...gig-cancelled/

Looks like somebody is willing to hold the guy accountable. Rock on Teddy pooh, me thinks your cat scratch just got a fever.

Yes Ted, that's the way the Army "Wangos" your "Tango"

[DJD]

I don't support 100% of anyone's actions including myself. I have made mistakes and I would guess so has everyone on this board. Nor do I put ant public figure in a perfect light because I would be so disappointed if I did. Ted is no different.
Here are a few more who should have known better but still made mistakes.
Jim Baker
Bill Clinton
John Edwards
Countless Catholic Priests
Eric Holder
Obuma
And thousands of others.
Guess all I'm saying is for all teds faults I still like him. I'm not an avid hunter but I do support the NRA and Ted has defended the rights of alot of folks so he's ok in my book. Again I don't jump up and down when I see him or read about him but I don't get disgusted either. I just take the good with the bad.

[HURRICANEBOB]

Pure Ted.....on hunting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRDYMFOWztk

Really, he's just a rock and roll Jack Nicholson.

Just one more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCLgpYmw0OI

[artcarney_agr]

I just feel like when you travel across so many states hunting, you can easily forget what's legal in one state may not fly in another. Maybe he relied on the guide and the guide steered him in the wrong direction trying to get a better tip, who knows?! I just think the liberal media is just reaching for anything now after he expressed his views of Obama. Anything Obama has done is far worse than anything Ted has done.

[Tom523]

Exactly, it isn't aginst the law in Kentucky, but it is in Alaska, and if you didn't follow the law that makes you a poacher!

I just hate the fact that a guy who is a convicted poacher in two different states, acts as a spokeperson for hunters. What's next, Bobby Petrino and Rick Pitino acting as spokesmen for the sanctitiy of marriage?

Split Shot, I agree that it really isn't about population control to the average hunter, but the truth of the matter it does come down to population control. While the average hunter wants to kill a deer for sport and food, the bottom line is that if it weren't for these same hunters, there would be no deer, turkey, elk, bear etc. in Kentucky. The hunters are the folks with boots on the ground, spending cash and funding the restoration of these animals. So in the end, it is about managing the population.

Tim. There is right, there is wrong, and there is the law. Have you ever seen the law wrongfully applied? I have. The courts don't care what is right, what is wrong, or what is fair. They don't make fair decisions. They make equitable decisions. You may not like Ted for other reasons but he has promoted outdoor sports to a large audience and promotes hunting ethics and our hunting heritage. I just don't like the idea of the political decision by Ft Knox personnel to unilaterally bar him from the concert. The military should stay out of politics. Would you be surprised if your boss docked your pay for voicing your political opinion away from the workplace? I think not.