Storms and gas

[mhall]

Some economist pinhead on CNN was talking about how the oil companies had to raise prices now when they knew disruption in supply was emminent so that they could smother some of the demand.

Uhhhmmmm, yeah.

I'm sure we all noticed drastically fewer cars on the road here this week, what with all that lowered demand due to the higher gas prices.

Personally, I just saw the same amount of people buying gas and driving...but walking a little funny when they got out of their cars, because of the anal rape the received at the pump.

Oil Companies have got it made. They can do anything they want, whenever they want, and everybody still lines up to buy their crap.



LMAO

Amen Brian Amen......This is part of my point exactly. I mean good Lord, how much profit is enough for this goons...

[bassin_bug]

I said that because the winds were 40mph when they went by and they knew it and cleared them out anyway. They were not going to be in harms way on a flippin dinky do tropical depression, it only became a Hurricane when it made landfall. They have places to get out of the weather on those things you know.

Also I HATE BIG GOVERNMENT TO.
STILL HATE BIG OIL.....Sorry Scott, I like you...

I also like laying pipe...

SO FAR, that 'dinky do tropical depression' has delivered to my house 60 mph winds and 12 inches of rain; it has been sucking water out of the Gulf. I walked out on the front porch at 2 o'clock this morning and it was raining so hard the security light looked like it was in a fog. We have been getting bands off that hurricane/tropical depression since early Tuesday morning and the weather report says that it will last until Sunday. We were also under a tornado watch until 10 p.m. last night. Things are calm right now because we are in between the weather bands and they are not coming in as fast as they were.

Wednesday afternoon my sister was leaving her house on Mobile Bay because it is less than a mile from the water and her garage was beginning to flood. She was going to one she owns in Saraland and had to drive up I-10. She said the water was over the interstate and State Troopers were there closing the road; her's was the last car they let go through.

It isn't the wind that does the most damage during a hurricane although it does some damage, it's the water being pushed by the wind. You mentioned that the oil platforms have a place to get out of the weather and you are correct up to a point. First of all, when the oil companies started evacuation procedures they expected the winds to be 80-100 mph and they did reach 80 with gusts up to 100 mph for a while. Everyone can't just run into a hole and hide because it takes time to secure loose equipment, turn off valves and go through shutdown procedures to protect the employees and prevent an oil spill.

A few years ago my first cousin was offshore in the Gulf when a hurricane entered. Their boss told them to go down into the living quarters and refused call for the helicopter to come get them and take them to shore. The wind blew the platform over and a load of pipe rolled in on him; they found his body about a week later.

I think someone mentioned there should be more drilling for oil in the United States. The state of Alabama has recently approved more than 200 oil and mineral leases, some are new and some are renewal. Some of the oil companies are doing the geological exploration already. Each oil and mineral lease application has to be printed in our local newspaper and there have been scads of them lately.

I don't know if the price of gas has gone up because of the holiday weekend or the hurricane. The prices started going up here while the tropical depression was so far out in the ocean they didn't know which path it would take.

[mhall]

OMG PEOPLE LISTEN CLOSELY. I was referring to BEFORE the **** thing hit land and turned into a Hurricane, not after...

I was not at the time nor am I now referring to anything but WHEN IT WENT PAST THE OIL PLATFORMS!!!


Why do I come to this site???

[mperry]

The Louisville Courier Journal had an article about the prices jumping and the title was about all I could read. Gas prices jump due to Holiday and Hurricane. Sounds to me like it was going to jump regardless of the hurricane.

[TimE]

Bassin sorry to hear about your cousin.

Mhall just how much extra has it cost
you for those workers to be safe?

[bassin_bug]

OMG PEOPLE LISTEN CLOSELY. I was referring to BEFORE the **** thing hit land and turned into a Hurricane, not after...

I was not at the time nor am I now referring to anything but WHEN IT WENT PAST THE OIL PLATFORMS!!!


Why do I come to this site???

You do know that the tropical depression/tropical storm/hurricane (or whatever you want to call it) hit land TWICE don't you? Mark, I'm not trying to make you have a stroke but the offshore oil field workers do have to make preparations for the hurricane BEFORE it goes past the oil platforms. They have no way of knowing exactly what the wind speed will be when it comes through or past the oil fields. It is safer to error on the side of caution.

"Why do you come to this site?" Because you need a good jolt of adrenaline ever once in a while. lol

Enjoy your holiday weekend.

[HURRICANEBOB]

Why do I come to this site???

Because you like pain...As Mr T says, "**** it up fool" :-)

I agree with Bug. Offshore, you got one chance to get it right. If you don't error on the side of safety, then you are erroring on the side of foolhardy.

I've made that mistake a couple times in the tiny-little Cheaspeake Bay. Once in a 19 foot aluminum Lone Star Boat. It looked just like this, but with a white bimini top and vinyl side curtains when we left dock that day.
http://www.fiberglassics.com/library...starb65010.jpg

One example : USCG had small craft warnings out, but all we could see on the radar said maybe 25 mph winds, so we ventured out. We were about 15 miles away from where we launched, and at about mid of the bay right off Tangier Island on the Intracostal waterway when the USCG estimates not only came true, but became obivous as an understatement. All details aside, what took us 20 miuntes time to run out, took us 4 hours to get back. The white bimini was torn and layed back, one vinyl side curtain was gone, and both the port and starboard fixed window glass were spider-webbed from where the windshield frame had become become deformed. Most of the damage came as we had to turn into the wind at 1/2 throttle just to maintain position and to address the surf at the bow rather then have it push us and take the surf at the beam. That Lonestar sounded like a busted tin can the whole time, but the hull took it.

So yep, in salt water applications, error on the safe side. PS: this is part of the reason Cumberand, even at its angriest doesn't beach me. And that's why the moniker Hurricane Bob came to be.

Besides......there are things that can bite you in salt water, the Gulf, Bay, or an ocean. :-)

[HURRICANEBOB]

What......??????

I hate laying pipe. I'ts sweaty, backbreaking, heavy, and sometimes thankless work.

I'd rather fill post holes.

[RoadToad]

Because you like pain...As Mr T says, "**** it up fool" :-)

I agree with Bug. Offshore, you got one chance to get it right. If you don't error on the side of safety, then you are erroring on the side of foolhardy.

I've made that mistake a couple times in the tiny-little Cheaspeake Bay. Once in a 19 foot aluminum Lone Star Boat. It looked just like this, but with a white bimini top and vinyl side curtains when we left dock that day.
http://www.fiberglassics.com/library...starb65010.jpg

One example : USCG had small craft warnings out, but all we could see on the radar said maybe 25 mph winds, so we ventured out. We were about 15 miles away from where we launched, and at about mid of the bay right off Tangier Island on the Intracostal waterway when the USCG estimates not only came true, but became obivous as an understatement. All details aside, what took us 20 miuntes time to run out, took us 4 hours to get back. The white bimini was torn and layed back, one vinyl side curtain was gone, and both the port and starboard fixed window glass were spider-webbed from where the windshield frame had become become deformed. Most of the damage came as we had to turn into the wind at 1/2 throttle just to maintain position and to address the surf at the bow rather then have it push us and take the surf at the beam. That Lonestar sounded like a busted tin can the whole time, but the hull took it.

So yep, in salt water applications, error on the safe side. PS: this is part of the reason Cumberand, even at its angriest doesn't beach me. And that's why the moniker Hurricane Bob came to be.

Besides......there are things that can bite you in salt water, the Gulf, Bay, or an ocean. :-)

Who's the young lady jumping into the boat??

My brother was a coxswain in the USCG on Nantucket Island back in the 80's. He's got some great stories about people who erred on the side of foolhardy. Some are really funny; a couple are pretty tragic. He now lives near Turkey Point, and boats on the Chesapeake all the time. I love the Eastern Shore!

[HURRICANEBOB]

Who's the young lady jumping into the boat??

My brother was a coxswain in the USCG on Nantucket Island back in the 80's. He's got some great stories about people who erred on the side of foolhardy. Some are really funny; a couple are pretty tragic. He now lives near Turkey Point, and boats on the Chesapeake all the time. I love the Eastern Shore!

We fished 2 different Turkey Points. One was up the bay when we ramped in at Middle River and turned north toward the Elk Neck State Park area near the netrance to the C&D Canal. Like that area alot. We also wen out of the Severn River, passed the Navy Academy and Anapolis then south to the South River, down to Thomas Point, and then into South River to Turkey Point right by Ramsay and Selby Bays.

Any trip included dragging a danforth ahchor to dredge up some oyster, and sometime spent dangling chicken necks by bridge piers to catch Blue crabs. Bay Stripers with lemon, butter, and Old Bay seasoning, steamed oysters, boiled blue crab, and a National Bohemian long neck!!!!!!! Sometimes the best part of the trip was meal after.

[mhall]

I guess I was more referrng to the constant use of excuses to raise gas and crude prices. I do hope you guys know I would not want to risk someone's life for gas prices. Not even I'm that crude and shallow. Sorry if I offended anyone it wasn't my intent.

[RoadToad]

We fished 2 different Turkey Points. One was up the bay when we ramped in at Middle River and turned north toward the Elk Neck State Park area near the netrance to the C&D Canal. Like that area alot. We also wen out of the Severn River, passed the Navy Academy and Anapolis then south to the South River, down to Thomas Point, and then into South River to Turkey Point right by Ramsay and Selby Bays.

Any trip included dragging a danforth ahchor to dredge up some oyster, and sometime spent dangling chicken necks by bridge piers to catch Blue crabs. Bay Stripers with lemon, butter, and Old Bay seasoning, steamed oysters, boiled blue crab, and a National Bohemian long neck!!!!!!! Sometimes the best part of the trip was meal after.

I'm talking about the Turkey Point near Elk Neck. I didn't know there were two of them. We went camping at Elk Neck a lot when I was a kid, and of course I went to Camp Rodney with the Boy Scouts. I love that neck of the woods. Have you seen North East lately? It's quite a hip little town these days, with a real nice main street.