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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Col Forbin View Post
    Maybe you should stop relying on Fox news for all your Obama info. Check out his website, he has a general outline of his plans. And yes, I have looked at and read through McCains website for information too.
    Oh come on man, many FOX new programs are watched more than all the other networks combined! They are way more fair and balanced than the talking heads like Wolf, Anderson, Gibson, Couric, Laur and the rest of the Liberal media. It's a FACT that the other guys are for Obama why is it so hard to admit that. If I was a Lib I would say heck yeah! We have the media on our side but you guys can't seem to admit the truth.....why? They even followed him overseas for his International Mystery Tour. They never followed McCain like that.

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    Col, for goodness sake man, don't get me started too. You've dealt so much erroneous information in this thread I don't even know where to start.

    What you're saying is you fully support the mandatory redistribution of wealth here in the land of the free. How is that good for our country? When people see you'll have your money taken away if you're seen as rich, what effect do you think that'll have?

    How exactly is taxing the corporations and oil companies going to be good for our country? Those are the companies we work for, you want to force them to lay people off and take jobs offshore even faster than they already are? Each and every one of us buys gas, how can anyone be gullible enough to believe Bo's windfall profit taxes won't be passed directly down to us?

    Since when are tax cuts bad for the economy? Did you give YOUR tax money Bush refunded to you back to the government or put it into the ecomomy? Eh? If you believe tax cuts are bad for the economy why are you voting for a guy who says he's going to cut taxes for 95% of us? Come on Col, snap out of that funk and come to your senses!

    How is even more of an inept federal government good for the country? I thought all you new deal BO voters were the ones who wanted change. But here you're all for a new federal bureaucracy to run health care that'll make the IRS look like small potatoes. More of the same big government on a big BIG time scale.

    Oh and for the record, Bill Clinton didn't do jack for the economy, he just rode a prosperous economy created by those smart enough to cut taxes and shrink the government. To his credit he did turn the deficit into a surplus. His only worthwhile accomplishment, but a significant one for sure. He also singlehandedly revived the cigar industry, but that's another story.

    Cut taxes, cut government programs, eliminate onerous government restrictions, eliminate governmental bureaucratic nonsense and let American workers take it from there. The only formula proven to work. How soon we forget.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    After reading through this thread and evryone's views, okay wait a minute! That standing ovation was for DJD and DH! Well said fellas.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

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    Since when are tax cuts bad for the economy? Did you give YOUR tax money Bush refunded to you back to the government or put it into the ecomomy? Eh? If you believe tax cuts are bad for the economy why are you voting for a guy who says he's going to cut taxes for 95% of us? Come on Col, snap out of that funk and come to your senses!

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    Obama still plans to generate additional funds from taxes (remember that 5%-10% he will be taxing is where 90% of the money in this country is. Makes sense to me - if I want a beer, I don't go door to door to ask for a drop from each person until I have enough to satisfy my needs - I go to the liquor store where there is a ton of the stuff (I know a crappy analogy - but who doesn't like beer). He also plans to save money by a systematic withdrawal from Iraq (that is the single biggest factor in our extremely weak economy).

    Actually, I did not sink my refund into the economy, I did the single worst thing you could do with that money (which is what the majority of americans did) - paid off debts.

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    Talk about Obama's one certain Tax he wants to start up again and have it at a Base 28% Tax. The Capital gains taxes on the selling of Homes. He wants me to give 28% of the profit I make off of selling my house. Heck no I built the house and made the adjustments and additions so that when I do sell it I make a profit. The profit is what I use to help pay off the next house I buy like everyone else who does this process. So "NO" I say no to having Obama be President......I don't like his tax plans at all.....

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Col Forbin View Post
    The only places I have heard this was on stuff that has been proven untrue on snopes.com. Just in emails and stuff that the unintelligent (I am in no way inferring that all conservatives are dumb, just a handfull) extreme right like to send to each other in order to avoid discussing or learning about real issues. Wait...remember he turned his back on the pledge too....and before we get into the religion discussion, I am going to go ahead and state; he does not eat babies.
    Wrong, you van watch the entire interview on Youtube and it's authentic too. He said it alright.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Wrong, you van watch the entire interview on Youtube and it's authentic too. He said it alright.
    If you watch the snippet on you tube (not the entire interview) the quote is misleading and taken out of context. If Obama was truely Muslim, much more would be made of this, other than the few snippets and mis-quotes from interviews.

    Aside from that, I have said before, and will say again; I don't care how anyone chooses to spend the Sundays, Saturdays, or the time set aside for prayer 5 times a day, or if someone chooses not to participate with any religious sect. I have good friends that are Christian, Jewish, and Muslim and none of them are any better of a person than the other.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post



    Since when are tax cuts bad for the economy? Did you give YOUR tax money Bush refunded to you back to the government or put it into the ecomomy? Eh? If you believe tax cuts are bad for the economy why are you voting for a guy who says he's going to cut taxes for 95% of us? Come on Col, snap out of that funk and come to your senses!

    QUOTE]

    Obama still plans to generate additional funds from taxes (remember that 5%-10% he will be taxing is where 90% of the money in this country is. Makes sense to me - if I want a beer, I don't go door to door to ask for a drop from each person until I have enough to satisfy my needs - I go to the liquor store where there is a ton of the stuff (I know a crappy analogy - but who doesn't like beer). He also plans to save money by a systematic withdrawal from Iraq (that is the single biggest factor in our extremely weak economy).

    Actually, I did not sink my refund into the economy, I did the single worst thing you could do with that money (which is what the majority of americans did) - paid off debts.
    Tsk Tsk Tsk it's so sad that people in this country can't see that demanding more money from other americans is not the right thing to do. Doesn't work, if you think it does your buying into a pipe dream. What did they do to deserve that? Prosper? Work hard? Get lucky? If you were rich would you be on board with that? Be honest, I bet you would not want to be targeted. Are the people who support this idea that selfish?
    How about cut spending, maybe even revamp the Silver Platter retirement plan these crooks have as a start let them feel the fruits of their non-labor..

    It's the fault of the Government(Dem and Rep) that we have a bad economy not mine. They should fix it without coming at me for more money. Look at the bailouts recently, who will pay for that.

    I say make EVERYONE pay they fair share and things will start to turn around. That includes poor people!

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Col Forbin View Post
    If you watch the snippet on you tube (not the entire interview) the quote is misleading and taken out of context. If Obama was truely Muslim, much more would be made of this, other than the few snippets and mis-quotes from interviews.

    Aside from that, I have said before, and will say again; I don't care how anyone chooses to spend the Sundays, Saturdays, or the time set aside for prayer 5 times a day, or if someone chooses not to participate with any religious sect. I have good friends that are Christian, Jewish, and Muslim and none of them are any better of a person than the other.
    Col you certainly have a right to your own opinion and I will always resect that. For me it was plain and simple he spit it right out and I'm convinced of it. You can call me a dumb redneck if you want but I want to make myself real clear on this one. I DO NOT NOR DO I KNOW ANYONE WHO WANTS A MUSLIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE. That so called religion is completely WHACKED beyond belief, and for me is nothing more than Hatred towards others that don't agree with their bizzarre ways.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    Actually, I did not sink my refund into the economy, I did the single worst thing you could do with that money (which is what the majority of americans did) - paid off debts.
    You answered my question Col, but somehow still arrive at the wrong conclusion. You paid off debts to lenders, who in turn took that money and loaned it to others or invested it. In other words your money went back into the economy just as President Bush intended it to. (The one exception could've been if your payments were on a Fannie Mae loan. They would've contributed the money to Barack Obama.)

    Bet you never thought you'd be doing President Bush's bidding. Makes me worry about you. Hang in there brother, you'll be in that booth punching the McCain/Palin button quicker'n you can say "hanging chad".

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Barak Hussein Obama. That should be enough right there. I don't know if he is MUSLIM or not but he has said it more than once. Went to a church for 20 years that the pastor hates America but in those 20 years he did not know it? Call me a racist if you want but putting a man with even a muslim name in the White House at this time dis-respects this Country even if he is not muslim, which I'm not convinced.

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