I screwed up!!!! T-ville related

[CTFSHWHISKER]

I hear ya all. I've introduced several folks to Striper fishing at C-land that now go on their own and never call me to ride along. Have had friends I took fishing for years who just up and decided to sell their boats. One was so bold to tell me why during a fishing trip on my rig. Sitting on the bow of my boat while I fished the back seat out of courtesy, he says " Well Bob, I sold my boat cause we fish together so much, it didn't make sense for me to have to go to all the boat expense, insurance, maintenance and all since I can always go fishing with you". Even had one guy I fished with, who sold his boat, get angry with me when he called to ask if I'd take him fishing and I declined cause I had obligations to the family. He got even angrier when he asked if "he could borrow my boat, since I wouldn't be using it". Again, courteously, I said that I never lend my boat due to possible liability issues and besides, I didn't want him to have to go all the effort to come hook it up, and get it ready to go.

All that said, I still know some darn good, fair minded folks that I fish with. Guess what I'm really saying is never give up being yourself. If you like to share a fishing trip with someone, do it for your own sense of giving, and not with any expectations. I've learned to do that, so I don't get let down much, I just don't expect much. The up side, is since looking at it that way, I really have run into some great folks that exceed my low expectations.

hey Bob
can bring my spinning rod and spook and go fishin with ya?it's getting too expensive to pull my boat and run it..

[Duayne]

The answer is probably somewhere in between. Now, I don't mind if people keep a few bass but I can fully understand being upset if you do not and you help someone that does. I don't keep them and can't understand why anyone would.. But everyone has their own opinion and no one is right or wrong.

Having said that, we've had similar situations on this board with stripers. Several of us used to provide extremely detailed reports here. Then someone preceded to take some detailed information and did a bunch of catch and release in the summer, which is a big no no for me and anyone else that really cares about the species. So, no more detailed reports on this board from me or several others that I know of. BUT, we do provide enough details that if someone is really into it, they can use it.

So maybe the answer is to provide just enough where if someone is into it, they can use it..

[Rudypoo4444]

The answer is probably somewhere in between. Now, I don't mind if people keep a few bass but I can fully understand being upset if you do not and you help someone that does. I don't keep them and can't understand why anyone would.. But everyone has their own opinion and no one is right or wrong.

Having said that, we've had similar situations on this board with stripers. Several of us used to provide extremely detailed reports here. Then someone preceded to take some detailed information and did a bunch of catch and release in the summer, which is a big no no for me and anyone else that really cares about the species. So, no more detailed reports on this board from me or several others that I know of. BUT, we do provide enough details that if someone is really into it, they can use it.

So maybe the answer is to provide just enough where if someone is into it, they can use it..

One question:

I only fish for stripes below the dams, so I am clueless about fishing big lakes for them. Why is it a no-no to catch and release them in the summer?

Just thought of another:

Why would you not be able to figure out why people would want to keep bass?

[Wichita]

A friend is worth more to me than any fish, tournament, or spot in the lake! Enough said!

[jigman73]

Not trying to hijack the post. I understand being upset about the situation. It is hard to find spots that tend to hold fish consistently as largemouth are known for being territorial fish in most Ky impoundments.
To throw in another point of view about the comparison between C&R and keeping fish. Both are considered management practices to maintain a healthy population within a fishery. Think about it, if it wasn't for the C&R folks then the creel and size limits that we experience today would not exist. If everyone kept their limits everytime on the water, populations would soon crash which would result in lower creel limts, maybe none at all until populations rebounded.
On the flip side, if everyone practiced C&R only, then populations would increase to the point of overpopulation with all the negative effects associated until managers either had to increase creel limits, change size limits, or other options in order to try to balance the populations.
I'm not taking sides in this post. I do have "my beliefs" on the subject about both practices and their importance to fisheries management. In order to stay neutral, I will stop at this last statement. Both practices are applied and considered by fisheries managers for a reason. They are the most inexpensive way to manage fish populations.

[Duayne]

One question:

I only fish for stripes below the dams, so I am clueless about fishing big lakes for them. Why is it a no-no to catch and release them in the summer?

Just thought of another:

Why would you not be able to figure out why people would want to keep bass?

In warm waters, stripers will build up lactic acid that shuts their muscles down and the water doesn't have enough disovled O2 for them to recover. The condition causes them to sink like a rock and they simply sink to the bottom and die.

I don't like the taste of bass.. But on top of that, they are not a put and take fish like Bass. But I do like crappie and walleye so..

[Rudypoo4444]

In warm waters, stripers will build up lactic acid that shuts their muscles down and the water doesn't have enough disovled O2 for them to recover. The condition causes them to sink like a rock and they simply sink to the bottom and die.

I don't like the taste of bass.. But on top of that, they are not a put and take fish like Bass. But I do like crappie and walleye so..

What are you supposed to do with stripers you catch in the summer months then?

[Duayne]

What are you supposed to do with stripers you catch in the summer months then?

Keep them, clean them and eat them... And don't fish for them further when you have a limit. We've sort of high jacked this thread so it may be a good idea to start a new one if we wish to talk further on this..

[bassfisherman99]

This is for bassking. What did fishing tournaments have to do with this thread? You had a bad experience with one person and this makes tournaments bad? It sounds like you had a bad experience with a friend. People love to get on here a bash tournament fisherman. If you don't like fishing tournaments, than don't fish them. I don't think anyone is forced to fish tournaments are they? Everyone is different thats what makes the world go round. I like to fish to fish tournaments but if other people don't like to fish them I don't bash them.

[Hlleonard]

In warm waters, stripers will build up lactic acid that shuts their muscles down and the water doesn't have enough disovled O2 for them to recover. The condition causes them to sink like a rock and they simply sink to the bottom and die.

I don't like the taste of bass.. But on top of that, they are not a put and take fish like Bass. But I do like crappie and walleye so..

Personally ....I like bass as much as the crappie,bluegill or catfish as far as eating fish...... the 12 to 15 inch are as good as most any fish you can put on a sandwich....I haven't eaten a bass bigger than 19 or 20 inches so I cant speak for them .... I just chose to not kill a fish that big..... not that it bothers me, I just don't. This has been discussed here several times since I have been reading this board and I agree with an earlier post about managing the population. If you want to release your catch then that is good....If you chose to eat the fish that is good also... judging folks because of they chose to take the fish home is wrong.... I don't give away my favorite spots because I don't want a boat sitting on it when i get there, the one thing that iritates me is the guys that feel they just hafta take braggin fish home with them to show a bud how they did today... if you take fish home that you have no intention of cleaning and putting on the table... that just seems to be a waste to me...

Hmmm....that was just too long.....sorry

[HURRICANEBOB]

hey Bob
can bring my spinning rod and spook and go fishin with ya?it's getting too expensive to pull my boat and run it..

Sure......you I trust :-)

[dc chopper]

I have a different view on this, and I hope you don't get offended but I just have to say it:


First off, we need more people like you around that are willing to help a buddy out and give him a good spot to fish. People are way too stingy with their fishing spots. I mean come on, it is fishing, it is supposed to be fun. I give out spots all the time to people if they ask just because I like seeing people have a good time.

Secondly, keeping and eating a bass is not a sin nor is it breaking the law. I don't get you catch and release only guys. Do you think bass are an endangered species? Last time I checked there are plenty of fish in the lakes if even I can go out and catch a limit on a regular basis. That is why there are creel and size limits on bass so we can manage the resource. If there were no guys out there harvesting these fish, they would soon become overpopulated and you wouldn't find anymore big fish in the lakes. So us "catch and release into the grease" guys may actually be doing you a favor.

And lastly, your spots aren't "ruined" just because your buddy kept a few bass from those spots. Bass can and will travel miles in search of cover and food. If these spots are as good as you say they are, then I am sure there will be other bass in line to call that spot home.

So do all of us fishermen a favor and keep helping out your fellow fisherman in need, the lake is there for all of us to enjoy. Don't you feel good about helping a friend have a good day on the lake? I know I do when I give someone a good spot to fish.

Rudy, no offense taken at all. I have no problem with someone keeping some bass to eat, but it's hard to swallow seing that done to a 4 or 5Lber out of T-ville. Keep SOME small 15 " thats fine but to keep pulling 18-20" to eat isn't for me. I used to striper fish some and was shocked we couldn't throw them back so I quit fishin for them, I won't take the chance of killing a 15 lb fish if no one is going to eat it. Thats why I quit deer hunting, I don't like the meat, I paid to have it processed and gave it away, poeple wouldn't even want to go pick it up wanted me to bring it to them. I sometimes gave it away at check in.