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    Port Backlog

    While the news is pointing the finger at the govt for NOT addressing the supply chain issues earlier, who is asking the tough questions to the Port Operators for failing to manage their own operations and know an issue was rising?

    Seems early on more ships could have been rerouted. While it’s a long way to the east coast, increasing transit cost, and increasing product cost on the shelf, the maker has a greater business loss if none of his product gets to shelf even if avoiding increased transit cost.

    In my supply chain experience, at first indication of a bottle neck, you identify route causes and implement alternatives. Better to increase transit cost and bring product to sale, then drive shortages, reducing sales.

    What ya think? Let’s not blame the govt for individual business failings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    While the news is pointing the finger at the govt for NOT addressing the supply chain issues earlier, who is asking the tough questions to the Port Operators for failing to manage their own operations and know an issue was rising?

    Seems early on more ships could have been rerouted. While it’s a long way to the east coast, increasing transit cost, and increasing product cost on the shelf, the maker has a greater business loss if none of his product gets to shelf even if avoiding increased transit cost.

    In my supply chain experience, at first indication of a bottle neck, you identify route causes and implement alternatives. Better to increase transit cost and bring product to sale, then drive shortages, reducing sales.

    What ya think? Let’s not blame the govt for individual business failings.
    Here are the Folks FOX and CNN ought be talking to to get their view of what really caused this:
    https://www.portoflosangeles.org/about/leadership

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    Here are the Folks FOX and CNN ought be talking to to get their view of what really caused this:
    https://www.portoflosangeles.org/about/leadership

    Found this on the LA Port Operations page and is a good view of what is going on at that port. Sacramento is the other major port.
    https://signal.portoptimizer.com/

    Looking at the load trends 2020 was slow as Covid hit, makers made less, and imports were slowed till we figured out it was safe to do that.

    2021 saw more buyer demand, more production, more shipping and so demands ramped up shipping. And, the numbers as projected are going to decline as they follow historic demand trends.

    Wish the news folks would get this kind of data before they try to make a normal occurrence into a political statement, expecially since Covid can be attributed as the major supply chain disrupter.

    Seems to me every time the news folks yell “Empty shelves…..shortages”. Folks rush out and hoard and what was little on the shelf becomes less. Self inflicted foot gun shot me thinks.

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    The USA screwed up when they stop manufacturing here

    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    Found this on the LA Port Operations page and is a good view of what is going on at that port. Sacramento is the other major port.
    https://signal.portoptimizer.com/

    Looking at the load trends 2020 was slow as Covid hit, makers made less, and imports were slowed till we figured out it was safe to do that.

    2021 saw more buyer demand, more production, more shipping and so demands ramped up shipping. And, the numbers as projected are going to decline as they follow historic demand trends.

    Wish the news folks would get this kind of data before they try to make a normal occurrence into a political statement, expecially since Covid can be attributed as the major supply chain disrupter.

    Seems to me every time the news folks yell “Empty shelves…..shortages”. Folks rush out and hoard and what was little on the shelf becomes less. Self inflicted foot gun shot me thinks.
    When the USA started sending all our manufacturing overseas to foreign countries to save money on workers pay they screwed up our National Security. And one day we will pay dearly for that. The people that have the most to lose are the owners of these factories. The chines communist will confiscate all their production equipment and use it for their own use.

    Right now China's navy is larger than ours and maybe more powerful. We won't know who's got the best navy unless we go to full scale war with China. But China has stolen our technology and is making copies of our F22 and other planes and ships with more powerful weapon than we have. They are producing destroyers faster than we can and are taking over the entire South China Sea and all those resources. We have fed the alligator in the pond for too long.

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    LMAO! Reap what you sow!

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    Shut up you piece of ****

    Quote Originally Posted by TimE View Post
    LMAO! Reap what you sow!
    Go Screw yourself Timmy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    While the news is pointing the finger at the govt for NOT addressing the supply chain issues earlier, who is asking the tough questions to the Port Operators for failing to manage their own operations and know an issue was rising?

    Seems early on more ships could have been rerouted. While it’s a long way to the east coast, increasing transit cost, and increasing product cost on the shelf, the maker has a greater business loss if none of his product gets to shelf even if avoiding increased transit cost.

    In my supply chain experience, at first indication of a bottle neck, you identify route causes and implement alternatives. Better to increase transit cost and bring product to sale, then drive shortages, reducing sales.

    What ya think? Let’s not blame the govt for individual business failings.
    yea, that's what we need...get the government involved...NOT!!!
    you think the shelves are empty now!!!

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    Gosh Darn it!

    Does every discussion of real world situations have to turn into childish name calling, political overtones, and proposed schemes of clandestine covert conspiracy ?

    IMHO, that’s part of what’s wrong right now. So many want some deep complicated discussion of situations that often need simple solutions like enforcement, or have simple clearly identifiable causes such as disease driven shut downs, sick labor forces, unexpected demand, and/ or lack of supplies from a temporary shortage.

    No folks, Henny Penny does not solve issues by declaring the sky is falling. We make things better with problem solving and action .
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    I too wish we could have quality discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by ZoraSpook View Post
    Does every discussion of real world situations have to turn into childish name calling, political overtones, and proposed schemes of clandestine covert conspiracy ?

    IMHO, that’s part of what’s wrong right now. So many want some deep complicated discussion of situations that often need simple solutions like enforcement, or have simple clearly identifiable causes such as disease driven shut downs, sick labor forces, unexpected demand, and/ or lack of supplies from a temporary shortage.

    No folks, Henny Penny does not solve issues by declaring the sky is falling. We make things better with problem solving and action .
    But as long as there is two different media agendas out there dividing American this is what we get. People that listen to the main stream media IE CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN and PBS get one vision of the news. And other people who listen to the Right Wing Media like Fox with a owner from a foreign country that doesn't care if the USA survives or not get another totally different vision. So when we mess in here we come with different visions of the truth and that leads to conflict. I don't really care to call other's names but I will not sit idle and allow people to spread false news (Disinformation) about the virus. It's way too important to get this virus under control and that process is being disrupted by the GOP and I think that they are doing it on purpose. Spreading disinformation about the vaccines is unamerican IMHO and it needs to stop now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    But as long as there is two different media agendas out there dividing American this is what we get. People that listen to the main stream media IE CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN and PBS get one vision of the news. And other people who listen to the Right Wing Media like Fox with a owner from a foreign country that doesn't care if the USA survives or not get another totally different vision. So when we mess in here we come with different visions of the truth and that leads to conflict. I don't really care to call other's names but I will not sit idle and allow people to spread false news (Disinformation) about the virus. It's way too important to get this virus under control and that process is being disrupted by the GOP and I think that they are doing it on purpose. Spreading disinformation about the vaccines is unamerican IMHO and it needs to stop now.
    If you "don't really care to call other's names" why do you do it?
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    Read my post again.

    Quote Originally Posted by jcb View Post
    If you "don't really care to call other's names" why do you do it?
    You will find your answer if you read my post that you linked above.

    The guilty parties didn't even respond to your post yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    You will find your answer if you read my post that you linked above.

    The guilty parties didn't even respond to your post yet.
    I assume you mean this part...

    Quote Originally Posted by Moveon View Post
    I don't really care to call other's names but I will not sit idle and allow people to spread false news (Disinformation) about the virus. .
    C'mon, man. You can choose not to "sit idle and allow people to spread false news" without engaging in the same childish name-calling they do.

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